Help
Matchpoints good opps
Thanks
Eagles
Pre-Empt
#1
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 1,831
- Joined: 2011-June-08
- Gender:Male
- Location:UK Near London
- Interests:Crystal Palace
Posted 2015-April-02, 13:13
Matchpoints good opps
Thanks
Eagles
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
#2
- The Abbess
-
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 17,198
- Joined: 2004-April-22
- Gender:Female
- Location:Copenhagen, Denmark
- Interests:History, languages
Posted 2015-April-02, 13:45
Good question. I think I pass. If I am not able to pass in tempo I think I bid 3♦. Dbl could work but I would have to pass 3♥ then. 3NT is not terrible either. 4♣ (NLM) is quite bad, though.
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
#3
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 16,825
- Joined: 2003-October-07
- Gender:Male
Posted 2015-April-02, 13:48
agree with pass.
#5
- 5-level belongs to me
-
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 9,128
- Joined: 2004-August-30
- Gender:Male
- Location:Glasgow Scotland
- Interests:Poems Computers
Posted 2015-April-02, 17:48
eagles123, on 2015-April-02, 13:13, said:
#6
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 2,366
- Joined: 2012-March-18
- Gender:Male
- Location:Illinois
- Interests:Bridge, Golf, Soccer
Posted 2015-April-02, 19:39
I'm passing also.
Bidding ♦ on A empty fifth is a huge leap of faith. Double has no answer for a ♥ bid from partner.
NT is another step into the unknown. In 1st seat Vulnerable, I'd expect the preempt to be on a pretty decent suit. Preemptor has to be cognizant of the phone number potential of wild preempts when vulnerable. If they duck the first ♣ to you, you'd better be ready to run 8 additional tricks or it could get gruesome. Expecting responder to have a stiff ♣ so that clubs can't be run is a bit dicey.
But the biggest problem is the unknown about what the person behind you holds. If it goes, 3 ♣ - P - P - ? and partner can find a call, your in a good position to compete.
Bidding ♦ on A empty fifth is a huge leap of faith. Double has no answer for a ♥ bid from partner.
NT is another step into the unknown. In 1st seat Vulnerable, I'd expect the preempt to be on a pretty decent suit. Preemptor has to be cognizant of the phone number potential of wild preempts when vulnerable. If they duck the first ♣ to you, you'd better be ready to run 8 additional tricks or it could get gruesome. Expecting responder to have a stiff ♣ so that clubs can't be run is a bit dicey.
But the biggest problem is the unknown about what the person behind you holds. If it goes, 3 ♣ - P - P - ? and partner can find a call, your in a good position to compete.
#7
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 1,366
- Joined: 2013-August-03
- Gender:Female
- Location:Variable private
- Interests:Cricket,Photography,Paediatrics and Community Medicine.
Posted 2015-April-03, 00:26
Pass for obvious reasons.
#8
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 268
- Joined: 2013-March-08
- Gender:Male
- Location:South Florida
- Interests:Bridge, Football, Coaching, Family, Writing
Posted 2015-April-03, 04:15
Pass!
#10
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 1,831
- Joined: 2011-June-08
- Gender:Male
- Location:UK Near London
- Interests:Crystal Palace
Posted 2015-April-03, 06:47
is this really a WTP I thought it was quite a tough desicion?
Anyway I did pass
and now?
Anyway I did pass
and now?
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
#11
- The Abbess
-
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 17,198
- Joined: 2004-April-22
- Gender:Female
- Location:Copenhagen, Denmark
- Interests:History, languages
Posted 2015-April-03, 06:49
now you have to pass again
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
#13
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 122
- Joined: 2015-March-13
Posted 2015-April-03, 19:44
Pass 3♣. 3NT might be more appealing if the clubs were Ax, so that at least I can hold up once. 3NT on subminimum values and Kx in clubs is just asking for a boot in the you-know-what.
However, if faced with 3♣ then 4♣ by LHO I think I can try 4♦ safely. This has to be 'diamonds and a secondary major', doesn't it? At least this way partner with at least 4=4 in the majors can bid 4♥ as 'pass or correct' with at least a fair hand.
However, if faced with 3♣ then 4♣ by LHO I think I can try 4♦ safely. This has to be 'diamonds and a secondary major', doesn't it? At least this way partner with at least 4=4 in the majors can bid 4♥ as 'pass or correct' with at least a fair hand.
#14
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 227
- Joined: 2015-February-11
- Gender:Male
Posted 2015-April-03, 22:24
X not even close
#15
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 227
- Joined: 2015-February-11
- Gender:Male
Posted 2015-April-03, 22:26
Sry mistapped x over 3c not even close, now after the feeble pass what else but pass again
#16
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 1,488
- Joined: 2006-March-23
- Gender:Male
Posted 2015-April-04, 01:04
eagles123, on 2015-April-03, 06:47, said:
is this really a WTP I thought it was quite a tough desicion?
Anyway I did pass
and now?
Anyway I did pass
and now?
Not wtp at all. I would definitely strongly consider overcalling 3D, red at MP is so bleh though. But our hand is so good and its easy to imagine being stolen from via a pass.
The artist formerly known as jlall
#17
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 227
- Joined: 2015-February-11
- Gender:Male
Posted 2015-April-04, 10:32
Serves you right for not bidding over 3c read robson in the times today!
#18
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 1,831
- Joined: 2011-June-08
- Gender:Male
- Location:UK Near London
- Interests:Crystal Palace
Posted 2015-April-04, 10:53
zillahandp, on 2015-April-04, 10:32, said:
Serves you right for not bidding over 3c read robson in the times today!
mate no offence but who are you?
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
#19
- Experimental biddicist
-
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 1,909
- Joined: 2010-January-02
- Gender:Male
Posted 2015-April-04, 12:28
Maybe Robson? 
The "4♥ is a transfer to 4♠" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
#20
- VIP Member
-
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 6,971
- Joined: 2009-November-14
- Gender:Male
- Location:Houston, TX
Posted 2015-April-04, 16:46
eagles123, on 2015-April-04, 10:53, said:
mate no offence but who are you?
Why does it matter?
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
Matchpoints good opps