[feckless]

Hi,

I'm getting a "tourney completion percentage is lower than that required" message when I try to join tournaments. I'm wondering why as I always finish tournaments and make plays within the time limit. I started a new account yesterday, played one tournament, then tried another today and received the same message.

Any ideas?

John

[barmar]

You don't get a tourney completion percentage until you've played 10 tourneys in the past 60 days. Since you started a new account, you haven't accumulated enough tourneys yet.

Play in a few robot tourneys today and your problem will be resolved tomorrow (we update completion percentages once a day).

[feckless]

barmar, on 2013-May-08, 08:54, said:

You don't get a tourney completion percentage until you've played 10 tourneys in the past 60 days. Since you started a new account, you haven't accumulated enough tourneys yet.

Play in a few robot tourneys today and your problem will be resolved tomorrow (we update completion percentages once a day).

Thanks

[kiat]

I've got a problem with this too. Since getting back to BBOL after a couple of years away I've played in 12 tournaments in the past few days...



...and AFAIK completed every single one of them. So my TCR should be very high, potentially 100%, right? So something is broken, here, I suspect.

Now I can't know for sure because my TCR and MCR are not showing on my profile....

)

...or am I looking in the wrong place - if so what's the right one?

Hopefully someone can kindly answer here, otherwise it's a support ticket :-/

[barmar]

Your TCR and MCR are both 100%.

Click on the "Show profile" button at the bottom of your public profile to see it.

[wynsten]

According to "Hands and Results" I have competed in at least 18 tournaments in the last 60 days but my (Wynsten) profile still reports "TCR: unknown".
It would be very helpful if my profile showed not only the percentage, but also the numerator and denominator of this quotient (which surely ARE known).

i.e. something like "TCR: 50% (7/14)"

Thanks
Wynsten (Doug)

[diana_eva]

Hi Doug,

Team matches don't count. You have about 6 tourneys completed in the last 60 days (I might have miscounted, but anyway less than 10).

[barmar]

Please don't ask the same thing twice. I just answered in the other thread that you started.

[wynsten]

barmar, on 2014-May-21, 10:11, said:

Please don't ask the same thing twice. I just answered in the other thread that you started.

Sorry - I don't post very often; didn't realize that first post had actually happened. Thanks for telling me my number of tournaments played. Be easier on you if the software did it!

[wynsten]

diana_eva, on 2014-May-20, 13:27, said:

Hi Doug,

Team matches don't count. You have about 6 tourneys completed in the last 60 days (I might have miscounted, but anyway less than 10).

I see. Somewhere the help pages advise offering to substitute as a way of building up completed tournaments, but when I do that I often get slotted into a team match (usually replacing a player who is disenchanted with the state of the match or the strength of his partner). Maybe that advice could be modified to mention the match exclusion.
Anyway, thanks. Doug (Wynsten)

[Bbradley62]

barmar, on 2013-May-08, 08:54, said:

Play in a few robot tourneys today and your problem will be resolved tomorrow (we update completion percentages once a day).

I really hate this suggestion. Players who don't want to play against robots shouldn't be encouraged to do so just to establish TCR, especially when (in the free games) it takes spots away from people who actually do want to play those events.

[wynsten]

Bbradley62, on 2014-May-21, 14:11, said:

I really hate this suggestion. Players who don't want to play against robots shouldn't be encouraged to do so just to establish TCR, especially when (in the free games) it takes spots away from people who actually do want to play those events.

Well the rule that you can't play in some tournaments unless you play some other tournaments kind of implies this kind of problem. I play in tournaments only occasionally but I always complete the ones I play in so I kinda feel hard done by too. I see the problem they're trying to solve: offenders who simply re-register to reset their stats. Not sure there's a cure that is not worse than the disease though.

[Bbradley62]

But you can play the Express Free Automated Fun tournaments instead. There are 4 per hour that don't require TCR, and these (accommodating 80 players) don't fill nearly as quickly or regularly as the free robot games (accommodating only 10).

[wynsten]

Bbradley62, on 2014-May-21, 15:30, said:

But you can play the Express Free Automated Fun tournaments instead. There are 4 per hour that don't require TCR, and these (accommodating 80 players) don't fill nearly as quickly or regularly as the free robot games (accommodating only 10).

Thanks - good suggestion. However these tournaments are individual tournaments (not pairs which is the type of tournament I want to play but is excluding me because of my "unknown" TCR) and expect me to play 2/1 which I do not play (I play SAYC). So, I'll do it (and just ignore the 2/1 stipulation) but it is still not ideal, and still doesn't prove anything since the "history" that is being provided is totally artificial. Why not just trust that I'm a decent fellow until I prove otherwise?
Wynsten

[barmar]

None of the BBO or ACBL tourneys have TCR restrictions. They're not free, though.

Why not trust until proven otherwise? As you said, people with bad stats will just create new accounts. And we didn't think 10 tourneys was an onerous requirement.

[42krunner]

wynsten, on 2014-May-21, 19:54, said:

Thanks - good suggestion. However these tournaments are individual tournaments (not pairs which is the type of tournament I want to play but is excluding me because of my "unknown" TCR) and expect me to play 2/1 which I do not play (I play SAYC). So, I'll do it (and just ignore the 2/1 stipulation) but it is still not ideal, and still doesn't prove anything since the "history" that is being provided is totally artificial. Why not just trust that I'm a decent fellow until I prove otherwise?
Wynsten

Well, at least fake your way through 2/1. Otherwise you are going to have a lot of unhappy people playing opposite you.

[42krunner]

Bbradley62, on 2014-May-21, 14:11, said:

I really hate this suggestion. Players who don't want to play against robots shouldn't be encouraged to do so just to establish TCR, especially when (in the free games) it takes spots away from people who actually do want to play those events.

There are many free Goulash tournaments a day.

[Bbradley62]

And some of those goulash games get 600 participants!

[wynsten]

42krunner, on 2014-May-22, 11:44, said:

Well, at least fake your way through 2/1. Otherwise you are going to have a lot of unhappy people playing opposite you.

Yup - see my earlier post that the cure is worse than the disease.
So far I have seen:
Play as a sub
Play against robots
Play MP 2/1 individuals
Play in tournaments that aren't free
Play goulash

How doing all or any of this proves that I will be well-behaved when I play IMP scored pairs against real opponents with my favourite partner I don't know.

[wynsten]

barmar, on 2014-May-22, 09:33, said:

None of the BBO or ACBL tourneys have TCR restrictions. They're not free, though.

Why not trust until proven otherwise? As you said, people with bad stats will just create new accounts. And we didn't think 10 tourneys was an onerous requirement.

But if it's not an onerous requirement then the bad actors will just play in 10 tourneys instead of creating a new account.
You can't set the bar so high the bad guys can't get over, and so low the good guys can, 'cause it's the same bar!!