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I agree that the site of dummy was a surprise. And the fact that declarer was 0166 was also a surprise.
A lot of things had to be wrong for 5♣x to make.
The idea that 4NT could be natural never occurred to me. At equal nonvul, it is hard to construct a hand which would bid a forcing 1NT over partner's 1♠ bid and then have a natural 4NT bid and not a double. A natural 4NT bid would almost have to be based on a long running minor and a heart card, and that hand would bid 2 of the minor on the first round.
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Posted 2007-September-25, 10:11
ArtK78, on Sep 25 2007, 10:48 AM, said:
I agree that the site of dummy was a surprise. And the fact that declarer was 0166 was also a surprise.
A lot of things had to be wrong for 5♣x to make.
The idea that 4NT could be natural never occurred to me. At equal nonvul, it is hard to construct a hand which would bid a forcing 1NT over partner's 1♠ bid and then have a natural 4NT bid and not a double. A natural 4NT bid would almost have to be based on a long running minor and a heart card, and that hand would bid 2 of the minor on the first round.
A lot of things had to be wrong for 5♣x to make.
The idea that 4NT could be natural never occurred to me. At equal nonvul, it is hard to construct a hand which would bid a forcing 1NT over partner's 1♠ bid and then have a natural 4NT bid and not a double. A natural 4NT bid would almost have to be based on a long running minor and a heart card, and that hand would bid 2 of the minor on the first round.
I agree completely and would expect 4NT to really be distributional in the minors, so the actual hand is possible, although extreme.
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Posted 2007-September-25, 10:24
jtfanclub, on Sep 25 2007, 04:58 PM, said:
I think West thought 4NT could be natural, not minors. I thought so myself.
That's really bizarre to me. That 4NT could be anything but both minors would never occur to me.
Back to the problem. Both 2♥ and pass is possible over 1NT. I'd most probably bid 2♥.
Double of 4NT obviously sets up a forcing pass over 5m. I'd pass 5♣ in the actual auction and bid 5♥ as north.
There's nothing sensational about the layout here IMO.
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Posted 2007-September-25, 10:39
Why are we surprised our majors aren't cashing and that RHO is 6-6? Look at his bidding. Anyways, I agree with han as always.
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Posted 2007-September-25, 13:46
skaeran, on Sep 25 2007, 11:24 AM, said:
jtfanclub, on Sep 25 2007, 04:58 PM, said:
I think West thought 4NT could be natural, not minors. I thought so myself.
That's really bizarre to me. That 4NT could be anything but both minors would never occur to me.
Back to the problem. Both 2♥ and pass is possible over 1NT. I'd most probably bid 2♥.
Double of 4NT obviously sets up a forcing pass over 5m. I'd pass 5♣ in the actual auction and bid 5♥ as north.
There's nothing sensational about the layout here IMO.
I agree with Harald
I am late to the this very agreeable post, and sorry to disappoint Cherdano if he agrees, now, with someone else
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Posted 2007-September-25, 13:51
skaeran, on Sep 25 2007, 11:24 AM, said:
That's really bizarre to me. That 4NT could be anything but both minors would never occur to me.
Yep, well, what can I say? It's never come up for me. If I had West's hand, and the auction came to me at 4NTX, I'd pass it, in case partner had some 0-3-5-5 hand. But if I and my partner were more experienced, I'm sure that wouldn't occur to me either.