[jillybean]

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Your opening bid is?

[shyams]

1♥

[mike777]

2C

[jillybean]

1♥ 1♠

2♣ 2♦ 2♥. 2♠

[mw64ahw]

22tp, but 9.5 playing tricks so 2♣ works.
Playing 'birthright'
2♣-2♦-2♥-2♠
.. 3♣ 6♥
.. 3♦ 5♥
.. 3♥ x6x4
.. 3♠ 46xx
.. 3N x64x

[mw64ahw]

Playing KI5
1♥-1♠ forcing-2♦ 4♠ or some strong hands
.. 2♥ preference, you've found your fit and can GF
.. 2♠ preference
.... 3♦ GF
A direct 3♦ over 1♥-1♠ shows GI x64x

1♥-1N 5+♠ weak
2N 18-19 or ♦-3♣ <which?>
3♠ 0643

[P_Marlowe]

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[P_Marlowe]

Hi

1H

After the 1S response, 3D.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: If you play something like Gazilli 2C, or XYZ (? the same with a different name) 2C being art.,
obv. 2C followed by whatever.

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean, on 2025-August-25, 22:51, said:

1♥ 1♠

2♣ 2♦ 2♥. 2♠

Assuming 2C was art., 2D being forced, 2H showing 15+.
Over 2S, what is wrong with 3D?

[Cyberyeti]

We play a GF unbal 2N rebid after 1x-1y with a semi forced 3♣ over it, at which point 3♦ shows a really big x64y hand where x is not 3

[mike777]

jillybean, on 2025-August-25, 22:51, said:

2♣ 2♦ 2♥. 2♠

3D now, 2d for me was gf.

[Tramticket]

If I am playing Benji two bids, this fits perfectly and I open 2♣.

But in my main partnership we only have one strong bid available, so happy to open 1♥. With 13 spades sitting somewhere, we are never going to be left to play in 1♥, so I will get a second bid and show strength then.

[pescetom]

With a trusted partner, 1H 1S; 2D... the space gained easily repays the small risk.

With a beginner, 1H 1S; 3D... like the book says.

With a wooden intermediate, 2C 2D; 2H (sans Birthright)... we might learn something useful and we are unlikely to go far wrong.

[jillybean]

It looks like 1♥ was a popular choice for the opening bid, I chose 2♣

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If you start a cue bid sequence, partner will of course show a spade control. 4♦:4♠
Have I dug myself a big enough hole?

[akwoo]

I'm happy to open 2C as long as my partnership agreements have a good way of getting out in 3♥.

In your sequence, I would bid 5♦. That should make it clear that partner should bid 6♥ with a club control, and you can hope they have the heart queen also.

[pescetom]

jillybean, on 2025-August-26, 09:11, said:

It looks like 1♥ was a popular choice for the opening bid, I chose 2♣

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It looks like you fell on your feet despite the dubious agreement to bid spades with hearts fit, but now need better control bidding agreements.
We would bid 3S 3N both showing spades control and now your 4D elicits the clubs information you need, below game level.

If you start a cue bid sequence, partner will of course show a spade control. 4♦:4♠
Have I dug myself a big enough hole?

Think you hit lucky but still risk blowing it with a non-Italain control-bid sequence.
Why on earth should you start with diamonds when you control spades?
Show it and you will discover whether partner controls clubs, below game level.

[jillybean]

pescetom, on 2025-August-26, 10:17, said:

Forum bug again

forum bug still, lets have a collection so we can get a decent server?
There is a delete button for multi posts
I'll finish this later, it's another fabulous day in Vancouver, time to head to the batch

[Cyberyeti]

jillybean, on 2025-August-26, 09:11, said:

It looks like 1♥ was a popular choice for the opening bid, I chose 2♣

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If you start a cue bid sequence, partner will of course show a spade control. 4♦:4♠
Have I dug myself a big enough hole?

Depends, what was 2♦ ?

[smerriman]

 jillybean, on 2025-August-26, 09:11, said:

If you start a cue bid sequence, partner will of course show a spade control. 4♦:4♠

How can 4♦ be a cue bid when you haven't even agreed a trump suit yet? 3♥ is just preference, surely, so 4♦ sounds natural to me.

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean, on 2025-August-26, 09:11, said:

It looks like 1♥ was a popular choice for the opening bid, I chose 2♣

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If you start a cue bid sequence, partner will of course show a spade control. 4♦:4♠
Have I dug myself a big enough hole?

4H

At one point in time, you need to tell p, that you have a min for your bidding.
As it is you are also denying a club control, which you dont have.

If slam is on, p needs to have Qx in hearts and a club control, he will move on,
if he happens to look at those.