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Benellis58 GIB bashing on repeat Groundhog Day

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Posted 2026-February-21, 06:23

At trick 9, the GIBBO robot in the North ruffs his partner South's 10 of clubs, which would have WON the trick and which North KNEW would have won the trick. And it's not as if North ruffed because he desperately needed to be in - he had NO reason to be in and NO reason to ruff.

Now, in fairness, his ruff didn't cost anything, but why did he do it? Was it just to annoy his partner?

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Posted 2026-February-21, 06:29

Pseudo-squeeze time again, and of COURSE the GIBBO robots get it WRONG, as is so often the case.

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Posted 2026-February-21, 12:34

Forget about the rest of the hand. Forget about what happens on this or any other random layout on this or any other random hand.

Just ask yourself why anyone would want to lead the stiff queen of spades (trump) on the auction that occurred and when the opening leader knows only his OWN hand.

No, I can't think of a good reason for the lead either.

What IS it with these ridiculous GIBBO robots from Bizarro World? And I'm not talking only about their bizarre leads - I'm talking about their bizarre EVERYTHING.

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Posted 2026-February-21, 12:41

Why is West bidding 4C rather than doubling? I bet EAST is asking the same question.

The GIBBO robots are just plain lousy.

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Posted 2026-February-21, 12:44

Yes, 6H made. Bravo, rah, rah, rah...but that DOESN'T mean that the GIBBO robot in the North bid it well!

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Posted 2026-February-21, 12:57

Yes, East-West could have defended better. Yes, East-West could have defended MUCH better. Yes, East-West "defended" like total I.D.I.O.T.S.

Is anyone surprised? I said, "Is anyone surprised?" Is this microphone working? Is anyone surprised that the GIBBO robots "defended" like absolute M.O.R.O.N.S.?

No? NO ONE is surprised?

Yeah, that's what I thought. Why WOULD anyone EVER be surprised to see these stunningly bad robots botch a defence...or a lead...or a bidding sequence...or ANYTHING bridge-related? Based on experience, we're not SURPRISED when the robots blow something. We're not surprised, because we EXPECTED it from these twits.


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Posted 2026-February-21, 13:05

The hopeless GIBBO robot (sorry for being redundant!) bids 4S instead of 4H. Did he learn bridge five minutes ago...or five SECONDS ago? I don't know the answer, but I don't think it could have been MORE than five minutes ago.

Maybe he "learned" bridge (ha, HA!) at the same place as West, who on THIS auction made the superbly BONEHEADED lead of a heart.

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Posted 2026-February-21, 13:08

Another hopeless "defence" by the GIBBO robots. What ELSE is new?

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Posted 2026-February-22, 06:45

Here is yet another hand exemplifying the worthlessness of the GIBBO system and the GIB definitions. First I'll list the results and scores at all the tables, and then later I'll discuss how the various contracts were reached and why the system and definitions are so repulsively bad.

The hand was played 24 times.

18 of those 24 times, NS never did anything other than pass, and the auction was pass by West, 1C by East, 1S by West, 2S by East, all pass. Final contract: 2S by West. 17 of those times, West made 10 tricks for minus 170 North-South, plus 170 East-West, and the 18th time West made 11 tricks, for minus 200 North-South, plus 200 East-West.

And the OTHER 6 times? At 4 tables, including mine, the human South bid 3C over East's 2S, West passed, North bid 3S, East passed, South bid 3NT, and all passed. Final contract: 3NT by South. I and two other human Souths went down 2, for minus 100 North-South, plus 100 East-West. The fourth human South in 3NT went down FIVE (???!!!) for minus 250 North-South , plus 250 East-West. Perhaps that fourth human was so disgusted by the pathetic GIBBO system that he didn't even bother trying. If so, I wouldn't blame him.

That leaves two other times. In both those cases, South bid 3C just as all the Souths who ended up in 3NT had done, and North bid 3S just as all the Norths who ended up in 3NT had done, but in these final two tables the human South chose to now bid 4C rather than 3NT. All passed. Final contract: 4C by South. At both tables this went down two for minus 100 North-South, plus 100 East-West.

Here are the SCORES on the board: The five NS pairs who were "only" minus 100 for going down "only" two in either 3NT or 4C had a shared TOP of 94.30 %.

The 17 NS pairs who never bid and sold out to 2S for minus 170 scored 43.48 %.

The 18th NS pair that sold out to 2S but were minus 200 (rather than "only" 170) scored 4.35 %.

The poor soul who, perhaps (?) in disgust at the system/definitions/robots, went down FIVE in 3NT for minus 250 scored zero percent.

Clearly, it worked out WELL for South to bid 3C rather than sell out to 2S...EVEN if he was propelled higher and went down TWO tricks, because he STILL had a shared TOP. The ONLY 3C bidder who got a bad score (a rock bottom) was the one who went down FIVE tricks in 3NT, but the problem there wasn't the 3C bid - the problem was that for whatever reason, the declarer played the hand less than optimally. Had he judged the play more accurately, he would have emerged with a shared TOP rather than a rock BOTTOM,

It was GOOD and NORMAL to bid 3C with the South hand, so why did 18 of the 24 human Souths not do it? Why did they meekly pass, selling out to 2S and ending up with a below average score? Well, the answer might WELL be that they were OBEYING the (stunningly bad!) GIBBO system, unlike "rebels" (ha, ha) such as myself and the five other humans who wisely IGNORED the useless system and hopeless definitions in favour of making what they thought was the CORRECT call. The pathetic GIB definition of 3C was "16+ HCP; twice rebiddable clubs; 16- total points". Let's examine that:

"16+ HCP". Why, why, WHY, pray tell? Maybe it would be better if the hopeless definitions and miserable system stopped being mere BEAN COUNTERS and tried using logic for once! South has "only" 13 HCP, but it still seems that it's wise to bid 3C, and in practice it certainly WAS wise to bid it on this hand. Maybe some of the obedient human Souths ALSO thought 3C was good and WANTED to bid it, but were scared to or persuaded not to by the imbecilic GIB definition.

"Rebiddable clubs". That actually makes sense, but as always, the hopeless definition fails to specify what "rebiddable" might mean within the context of this or any other specific auction.

"16- total points". The ubiquitous GARBAGE that GIB definitions continue to spout, because (sigh, once AGAIN) HCP can be equal to or less than "total" points but they CANNOT be greater...despite GIB's total ignorance in repeatedly suggesting the reverse. Absolutely pathetic!

Next, imagine you're South, you've just chosen to WISELY bid 3C, and you now hear your imbecile of a GIBBO "partner" do what he SO often does by HANGING you with a cue bid or some other nonsensical uttering propelling you too high. Here it's 3S, defined as "2+ clubs; 8-11 HCP; 9-12 total points; forcing". What trash!

"2+ clubs" literally means 2-13, since the lazy wording gives no upper limit. The information about clubs is therefore so vague that it's useless. "8-11 HCP"? Not much use either. A four point range, and where ARE those points? "9-12 total points"? Utterly meaningless, as usual, since the GIB definition does what it almost always does in calculating "total" points: It simply adds one to the lower end of the HCP and one to the higher end and feels that it has MAGICALLY determined the value in "total" points. NO, GIB, that is NOT how to determine "total" points! You can't do it with a generic cookie-cutter formula! You need a REASON to add points. Finally, the definition ends with the useless word "forcing". Why is that useless? Well for one thing, it doesn't say what it's forcing TO, and for another, guess what GIB: You probably don't need to tell us that it's "forcing", because even if you don't, we will probably not be PASSING the 3S call, since spades is the suit that BOTH our opponents have BID!

In fairness to the GIBBO robot in the North, his hand DOES fit the definition, but if he's going to bid over 3C, wouldn't it be a LOT more intelligent to make a USEFUL and INFORMATIVE bid like 3D than his vapid 3S call? Even 3NT would be better than 3S, not that I would recommend it...and I sure as HELL would not recommend the GIBBO system or the GIB definitions to anyone except my worst enemy! When will the madness end?

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Posted 2026-February-22, 07:16

The result was fine, so I'm not complaining, but why the HELL did North bid three HEARTS with J98, J873, AK1072, 7? He disobeyed his own GIB definition, which was actually (and surprisingly) a (moderately) GOOD definition here: "Lebensohl - 5+ hearts; 11- HCP; 10-12 total points; forcing to 3NT".

You will notice that I now PASSED his FORCING bid. I would never do such a thing in "real" bridge with a human partner and human opponents, but I often do bizarre things in the GIBBO robot games, because I have no respect at all for the GIB definitions, no respect at all for the GIBBO system, and absolutely no trust in my robot "partner". It has sadly come to this: You often get BETTER results in the robot games through bizarre or "rebellious" actions than through normal, disciplined play. Here, I was actually WRONG, not just in theory but also in practice, to pass the FORCING 3H call, since I made 10 tricks, but I still lucked into 87.50 % (!) on the board, since 14 Souths went down 1 in 4H and 7 others went down 2. Only two bid and made 4H, and only one bid 4H and made an overtrick.

I do NOT recommend passing forcing bids. I did so on this board only for the following reasons: I had already overbid the hand by showing 15-17 HCP when I had only 14, my partner was a passed hand, West (BEHIND me) had voluntarily entered the auction red against white, and although it was GOOD that my partner (SUPPOSEDLY!) had at least five hearts, that meant it was likely that he had WASTED values there (overkill in ONE suit, meaning less strength in the other three, suggesting possible losers in all three side suits, considering that the presumed strength for the enemy potentially placed the AQ of spades behind my king and the king of clubs behind my AQ - both of which actually DID exist on the hand!).

But the MAIN reason that I bizarrely passed the FORCING bid was quite simply that I DO NOT TRUST the robots, the system, or the definitions...and if you look at North's 3H bid here, you will see a prime example of exactly WHY i do not trust them!

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Posted 2026-February-22, 08:23

West doubles me for penalty in 1NT. Fine. But when I run to 2D he doubles me again, presumably also for penalty, although the typically VERY poor GIB definition does not specify that. Why don't these GIB definitions tell us what we SHOULD be told instead of all the useless nonsense that they SO often needlessly spew out? But it certainly LOOKS like it's a penalty double, as it says "1- heart; 10+ HCP; biddable diamonds". Of course, that's not what the absolute M.O.R.O.N. actually HAS, since he only has 9 HCP, and much more importantly has the 87 doubleton of diamonds! Since when did 87 doubleton become "biddable", Mr. GIB?

North, also a GIBBO robot, is of course also a M.O.R.O.N. He stupidly decides that he MUST "rescue" me from 2D doubled, so he bids 3C on his FOUR-bagger. The idea of "rescuing" me is, to begin with, on a level of stupidity that we can ONLY expect from a GIBBO robot, but this ignorant DWEEB thinks it's a great idea to perform his "rescue" a level HIGHER and on a FOUR-card suit. If the stooge INSISTS on his braindead mission of rescuing "rescuing" me, why would he not at least "rescue" me in his OTHER four-bagger, hearts, where he could at least stay at the TWO level?

To continue the comedy, West passes 3C. He was positively THRILLED to double 2D, a contract that he needed SIX tricks to beat, but meekly passed THREE clubs, a contract that he needed only FIVE tricks to beat. AND he was THRILLED to double 2D with his "biddable" trump stack (ha, ha, HA!) of 87 doubleton (!) but was TERRIFIED to double 3C, a level HIGHER, when he "only" had FOUR clubs to the KING!

Hands like this (and let's be honest, SO many others!) provide a strikingly clear example of why I have OFTEN said that I have never, EVER, in my decades of playing bridge, seen even a SINGLE human player as outrageously incompetent as the GIBBO robots. The WORST human player I EVER encountered was better than the GIBBO robots.

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Posted 2026-February-22, 08:28

Typical mind-blowingly stupid lead and OUTRAGEOUSLY bad "defence" by the hopeless GIBBO robot in the West. But let's be fair to the poor ignorant sod and mention that he is no MORE stupid than any other GIBBO robot, because every one of them is stunningly clueless.

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Posted 2026-February-23, 02:39

Here's a hand illustrating one of the countless ways in which the GIBBO robots are so stunningly bad at bridge. Their unrelenting incompetence and massive ignorance always fill me with disgust and fuel the immense and eternal contempt that I have for them.

After I, South, open 1C as dealer and West bids 2H, my GIBBO robot "partner" in the North bids 3C, defined as "4+ clubs; 9-11 total points". I have no problem with his bid or surprisingly not even with the GIB definition! Note that his 3C call is merely competitive and descriptive. It is not forcing, and for all he knows it could easily end the auction.

It doesn't end the auction, though, as East bids 3H. South and West both pass.

North is now in the passout seat with 107, 4, AQ1083, J10532. Does he sell out to 3H or does he compete?

He chooses to compete. I agree with his decision. Sometimes it might not work out, but I think most of the time it will. So far I have no criticism of anything he's done...BUT...instead of competing with four CLUBS, this I.D.I.O.T., this stunningly stupid fool, this imbecilic, incompetent twit bids four...DIAMONDS, effectively REVERSING...and basically forcing us to the FIVE level on a hand with which he was earlier QUITE content to let the auction END at THREE clubs. NO intelligence whatsoever!

Had I as South KNOWN his hand, I could have passed 4D (holding ONLY three of them), but the GIB definition gave no indication that he had to have FIVE diamonds, as it said "4+ clubs; 4+ diamonds; 11+ HCP; 11- total points". Note, by the way, that the GIB definition is pure GARBAGE as usual, and that as usual the braindead. disobedient robot doesn't even follow his own GIB definition. The ignorant fool does NOT have "11+ HCP" - he has SEVEN...a full FOUR fewer than the MINIMUM (foolishly) promised by the definition, and INFINITELY fewer than the possible maximum, given that the lazy, sloppy definition ridiculously gives no upper point limit, and just puts that useless plus sign. Also, note the inconsistency: If he actually held "11+ HCP", with no upper limit, then why did he earlier bid a PASSABLE 3C? AND...GIB continues its abhorrent NONSENSE of implying that HCP can be greater than "total" points, which, as I've explained many times, is totally incorrect and totally false. When will the hogwash that passes for GIB definitions be corrected? When will the GIBBO robots acquire even a TINY bit of bridge ability? Maybe the whole thing needs to be torn down and rebuilt from scratch, because it has been a pathetic joke for far too long.

I scored 57.1 % on the board for going down "only" one in 5C, but I could have scored a HUNDRED percent and I would STILL have written this post, because North's insane 4D call and the hopeless GIB definitions would STILL have been nothing but trash.

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Posted 2026-February-23, 03:48

Here is what a GIBBO robot considers to be a good lead in HIS world:

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Posted 2026-February-23, 03:56

Defender East leads a CLUB at trick one, won by declarer, who then plays a DIAMOND at trick two.

Defender West wins the diamond at trick two. What does he play to trick three?

Sorry for asking such a ridiculously easy question. Yes, you're right: Of COURSE he plays a DIAMOND, because as we all know, he HATES to return his PARTNER'S suit, but he LOVES to return DECLARER'S. 100 for NS, ZERO for EW.

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Posted 2026-February-23, 04:36

East knows that his partner West, being a GIBBO robot, is one of the worst opening leaders in the history of card games. Consequently, East is kind enough and wise enough to double 2C to help West with the lead. Bravo, Mister East! You are a thoughtful partner!

So what does West lead against South's 4H? The ignorant and DISRESPECTFUL jerk slaps his partner East IN THE FACE by ignoring the suggestion for a club lead and instead - for absolutely no reason whatsoever - tables the 10 of spades from 105 doubleton.

The hand is part of the neverending evidence of how hopeless the GIBBO robots are...and in this case also of what truly ROTTEN "partners" some of them (such as West) are.

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Posted 2026-February-23, 04:53

Questionable double by East, considering that his K8 doubleton of diamonds, in FRONT of his LHO who BID diamonds, rates to be led through at trick one.

But at least East's double is "only" questionable, whereas West's 2H call is...eye-poppingly flat-out INSANE!

West, who of COURSE is quite obviously a GIBBO robot, responds to his partner's balancing takeout double of 2D by bidding 2H...with...K62, Q93, J5. KJ1087!!!!!

Even his fellow GIBBO robots, even the citizens of BIZARRO WORLD, were all saying "Hey bro, your uhh...clubs...were a lot better than your uhh...hearts. Like, uhh...ya dig, bro? We're uhh...like tryin' to tell ya, man...it was like uhh...CRAZY to bid hearts instead of clubs, don't ya know? Come on, bro,...like...uhh...get your act together, man! You're like...uhh...ruining our reputation as bridge players, bro. Ya dig?"

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Posted 2026-February-23, 08:24

I've seen better defences.

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Posted 2026-February-23, 08:27

Ridiculous 3D bid by the GIBBO robot in the East.

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Posted 2026-February-23, 08:37

Typically stupid and meaningless 3S bid by the clueless GIBBO robot in the North, when he had an easy, intelligent, descriptive alternative. And the fool's 3S call didn't even match his own GIB definition - something that happens FAR too often with these world class dimwits. The result on the board was fine, but that doesn't excuse the egregious bidding by the clownish robot.

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