[apollo1201]

MPs, all red

LHO deals and passes, partner opens 1D (could be 3-cds if 44M), and RHO blasts 5C. Was my 6D so crazy with

Axx
Axxx
KX98x
x

I thought partner would have Ks since I have 2 aces and RHO probably the CA as well. Or he would be able to finesse through the red 5-level bidder... But feel free to say how bad bidding it is!

What if RHO bids only 4C as happened on most other tables?

[Jinksy]

apollo1201, on 2016-November-06, 03:06, said:

Or he would be able to finesse through the red 5-level bidder...

Why would he want to do that? Any such finesses are almost certainly failing. 5♦ and double seem reasonable, but 6♦ seems way too much when you don't really have any sources of tricks opposite what might still be a weak NT. I think I'd bid 5♦, but wouldn't be shocked if it turns out to have little play.

[alok c]

Your bid is over the top.As,
1.If your partner is 4-4M then your LHO probably is holding 5 carder♦
2.If your partner is having ♦suit still he requires atleast AJ♦+ a)♠K,♥K,assorted Qs &Js or b) two suiter hand as trick source.Former will be coming under NT category which he has not bid & latter is pure speculation on your part.
Double or 5♦ are the calls.

[akwoo]

Give partner Kxx; Kx; AQJxxx; xx, which is a very good minimum opener in context, and you only have 11 tricks.

6D is quite an overbid.

[msjennifer]

Leaving aside the fact that the major suits are going to break badly,Six D is an over bid.Going by LTC,this hand has 7 (seven)losers when keeping in mind that opener "may" have only three cards 7+7=14 and that gives a contract of 4(four) diamonds only..My answer is therefore DOUBLE.What to bid if the intervening bid was four clubs is for you to decide on the agreed gadgets and conventions which you use.

[MinorKid]

11 HCP + 2 DP (5-4-3-1 [(5+4)/3 - 1]) + 3 TP (8-card fit[(8-7)*3]) + 12 from partner give a sum of 28. Given partner 4 card trump for +6 TP (9-card fit[(9-7)*3]) could only value to 31.

Through the two aces , King-Ten support, and singleton may increase control value of your hand (+2+2+1+1)*3 - 11 =7 >0 which bring the evaluation value closer to 33 but bidding slam is 50-50 for me. On the downside pard's hand may have the shape exactly to this.

I bid 5♦.

[nekthen]

At MPs you need to aim for a positive score. I think you are best to double. Assuming it is going down, you are beating all the part scores your way. If partner is better than minimum, he can bid on.

[Jinksy]

nekthen, on 2016-November-07, 03:37, said:

At MPs you need to aim for a positive score. I think you are best to double. Assuming it is going down, you are beating all the part scores your way. If partner is better than minimum, he can bid on.

Partner is never going to bid on when you have five-card support and have made a defence-suggesting call at the 5 level. Double might be right, but don't kid yourself that it's a two-way shot.

[lamford]

I would bid 4D and hope they don't notice it is insufficient, but if they do I would correct it to 5D.

[Kaitlyn S]

One problem is that much of the time you can make 6D, partner will bid 7D.

[nekthen]

Jinksy, on 2016-November-07, 05:44, said:

Partner is never going to bid on when you have five-card support and have made a defence-suggesting call at the 5 level. Double might be right, but don't kid yourself that it's a two-way shot.

What is a sane hand for RHO? Presumably AKQxxxxxx or maybe KQJxxxxxx or AKQxxxxx and hoping for 1 trick from p. What has my p got?
1. A 12 -14 4432 hand
2. A 18-19 4432 hand
3. A natural ♦ hand

Hand 1 obviously passes
Hand 2 also passes unless he has clubs stopped twice and even then taking 800 may be the way to go

So we should only consider going on with a diamond suit again most hands have to pass, but maybe some big 4450 or 5161 hands would bid on.

Worst case for double is we miss game and only take 500. Best case we take 200 or 500 and cant make 5♦. Or we have 800. If we have a slam I'm hoping my partner will say something.

So yes I expect partner to pass my double 90+% of the time, but the door is ajar for partner.

[miamijd]

apollo1201, on 2016-November-06, 03:06, said:

MPs, all red

LHO deals and passes, partner opens 1D (could be 3-cds if 44M), and RHO blasts 5C. Was my 6D so crazy with

Axx
Axxx
KX98x
x

I thought partner would have Ks since I have 2 aces and RHO probably the CA as well. Or he would be able to finesse through the red 5-level bidder... But feel free to say how bad bidding it is!

What if RHO bids only 4C as happened on most other tables?

Yes, 6D is an overbid, as other posters have noted. You surely have a club loser; do you really think partner can cover everything else? Seems unlikely. I would bid 5D, but only because I would expect few tables to get a 5C overcall unless RHO is has 10 tricks in his hand. If RHO bids 4C, I'm bidding (either 5D or X is OK), and we're going to get to game (probably 5D), so I might as well bid over 5C. But if you want to X 5C, that's OK, too.

Over 4C, you can either bid 5D (which shows a good hand) or X. I think I'd X and correct 4S to 5D.

Cheers,
Mike