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Hammer time #3 Hands from Spain vs England

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Posted 2016-June-28, 07:58



Still against Robson/Forrester
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Posted 2016-June-28, 08:42

X
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Posted 2016-June-28, 08:51

I'd x too. No doubt partner is 3334.
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Posted 2016-June-28, 15:18

Sign me up for a double as well.

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Posted 2016-June-28, 16:41

x for sure
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2016-June-28, 19:38

I may be a wimp but I'm passing.

It's close but AK in clubs and Q 4th in both majors doesn't seem enough to want to re-enter the auction with a 15 count. I assume your NT is 15-17 (or 18) and so I'm a minimum, soft values in our likely trump suit. Yes the shape is right for a double but I've had these hands end up in 3Maj X -1 or 2 and IMP's lost many more times than I've had it go X all pass and Imps for us, or any of the other positive things that could occur.

Edit I should also note that I usually put emphasis on the short suit straining to re-open and I do only have 2 diamonds which is what makes this close to a bid and I would not be unhappy with a partner who chose X.
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Posted 2016-June-29, 02:33

View PostFluffy, on 2016-June-28, 07:58, said:


Still against Robson/Forrester
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Posted 2016-June-29, 15:27

I'm surprised at this one; double looks completely insane to me.
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Posted 2016-June-30, 00:55

I'm really surprised the consensus is to double. Competing for the partscore at the 3 level, vulnerable with a minimum hand and diamond wastage on what could easily be misfit deal seems crazy.

If you changed the hand to: AQxx Kxxx xx AKx then double would be clear because the major upside (partner passing for penalties) is a legitimate possibility. On the actual hand it is very unlikely.
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Posted 2016-July-01, 11:24

http://www.eurobridg...rd=004.01..1210

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Posted 2016-July-01, 16:39

Fluffy, do you think it's right to double in this spot? I wish the eurobridge site showed the auctions; I see some 3-x contracts but I don't know if they had the same auction.
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Posted 2016-July-02, 01:25

You can look for the 6 vugraph tables of the round on the BBO archives. I think double is easy with xx, and it is obvious not to double with Qx. Ax is somewhere in the middle and who knows...

One thing is to think double is best in a public forum, and another is to make it against Robson/Forrester at the table :)
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