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#1 User is offline   uva72uva72 

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Posted 2015-July-15, 21:25

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This hand did not influence my result in the set, but North's cue bid with a Queen and two Jacks is a pretty stark example of not having your bid. What does North have that a direct raise would not show (the raise having the added benefit of a degree of pre-emption)?
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Posted 2015-July-16, 05:10

View Postuva72uva72, on 2015-July-15, 21:25, said:

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This hand did not influence my result in the set, but North's cue bid with a Queen and two Jacks is a pretty stark example of not having your bid. What does North have that a direct raise would not show (the raise having the added benefit of a degree of pre-emption)?


North has way more it should have over your bidding sequence. Its more annoying that West passes the second time- its a clear cut 3. The failure in play is all your own fault- clear cut to lead spades and keep leading them.
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Posted 2015-July-16, 11:28

View Postcloa513, on 2015-July-16, 05:10, said:

North has way more it should have over your bidding sequence. Its more annoying that West passes the second time- its a clear cut 3. The failure in play is all your own fault- clear cut to lead spades and keep leading them.



Your analysis of my defense is, of course, correct. I must lead a at trick one (or, perhaps, exactly one high followed by a ) . Otherwise, the contract is no longer beatable. While you say this is "clear cut," none of the 11 defenders of 4 contracts in this tournament found the lead.
Unless you are completely discounting what is contained in the notes (8-10 total points for the cue bid), North does not have "way more than it should have." As for my bidding sequence, discounting the Q, I am squarely in the 14-18 total point range specified by the notes.
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Posted 2015-July-16, 14:18

Agree of course that the description of the delayed cue bid is wrong. But, Partner did not make a negative double, which would have occurred with 4 Hearts and 8+ points. We have all played with GIB enough to know that it makes negative doubles when it has the appropriate values, but that descriptions of cuebids - especially delayed ones - are highly suspect.
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Posted 2015-July-16, 20:07

View Postiandayre, on 2015-July-16, 14:18, said:

Agree of course that the description of the delayed cue bid is wrong. But, Partner did not make a negative double, which would have occurred with 4 Hearts and 8+ points. We have all played with GIB enough to know that it makes negative doubles when it has the appropriate values, but that descriptions of cuebids - especially delayed ones - are highly suspect.

When did North have an opportunity to make this negative double?
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Posted 2015-July-17, 11:21

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-July-16, 20:07, said:

When did North have an opportunity to make this negative double?


Good question upon a second look LOL.
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