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#1 User is offline   Stephen Tu 

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Posted 2013-August-07, 16:54

Favorable vul, IMPs.

You hold
KQxxxxxAxxxxx

(2)(1)-3-(4)-?
(1) ~9-13 hcp, 6+, or 5. If exactly 5, 4+ cds in a minor, singleton/void somewhere, not 4 spades, not 5422 shape.

Your call? How clear do you think it is?
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Posted 2013-August-07, 19:42

Pass. Very clear. There are 18-22 HCP remaining to be heard from. Partner will act with values that compliment this hand.
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Posted 2013-August-08, 02:53

View PostSteveMoe, on 2013-August-07, 19:42, said:

Pass. Very clear. There are 18-22 HCP remaining to be heard from. Partner will act with values that compliment this hand.

Errrm, are you assuming the hand given is in 2nd seat directly over the opening bid? I think it is much tougher on the actual auction given, but I would double.
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Posted 2013-August-08, 03:01

5

Not close in my opinion.
At this vulnerability reasonable opponents are bidding to make.
They could be wrong, but nothing in my hand suggests they are.
Expect my partner to be void in hearts and therefore at least six clubs .
I might double only if that was clearly defined as takeout in the partnership, but I am not sure a 4-4 spade fit if present plays better.

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Posted 2013-August-08, 20:35

Misread the original post.

Double. Transferable values. Want partner's opinion about declaring or defending.
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Posted 2013-August-08, 21:27

x takeout...


have no idea what transferable values means unless that is an expert way of saying takeout..
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Posted 2013-August-09, 02:18

Double. High cards outside hearts, nothing suitable to bid ("transferable values")
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Posted 2013-August-09, 05:05

Clear Dbl imo: we have good values, 4 and support. We may be stretching a bit, but that's one of the reasons why people preempt.
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Posted 2013-August-09, 08:03

View Postmike777, on 2013-August-08, 21:27, said:

x takeout...


have no idea what transferable values means unless that is an expert way of saying takeout..

values that are probably going to work just as well on defense as they are on offense.
Transferable values allow one to make a tox with less power than one with a lot of quacks.

for ex if this hand were QJxx xxx QJx Kxx we might consider 5c but x would seem silly
since we have far less than zero desire for our p to convert the x to penalty. The current
hand with KQ A is suited well for both offense and defense making the tox a reasonable
call since it is keeping the spade suit alive and does not mind defending.
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Posted 2013-August-10, 01:55

I'd double also. At least this will put the blame of partner if it turns out badly.
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Posted 2013-August-11, 05:55

Contract can be beaten on spade lead (get two spade and 2 minor aces before pitch set up). Double probably leads to 5c dbl -2, partner had seven clubs. So good result if partner wasn't going to lead spade, bad if she was?
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