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Bidding over a weak 2 or Muiderberg

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Posted 2013-May-15, 09:56

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Has South enough for 3?
Should North balance if South passes?
How clear and how risky are both bids?
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Posted 2013-May-15, 10:18

south has nothing resembling an overcall and bidding would be an absurd risk. north has a fairly easy balance, which is 4/10 on the riskiness scale.
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Posted 2013-May-15, 11:14

South has a decision to make, but 3 is never entering the equation, he can double or pass, and I would pass.

North has a clearcut reopening hand, 3 is the normal bid since he lacks a third heart to double, south will bid 3 or 3 over that and 3m or 4m should be the final contract.
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Posted 2013-May-15, 11:21

I might be being a bit thick, but isn't West going to raise to Three or Four Spades with four trumps and a singleton or void in a minor?
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Posted 2013-May-15, 11:44

he knows the kind of crap east normally opens with :P
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Posted 2013-May-15, 12:14

He has no minor shortness, but they have a major double fit?

Anyway, south should pass and if he cannot pass, he should double.

Despite the majority vote, I do not like bidding with the north hand. I would pass.
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Posted 2013-May-15, 12:21

View PostCodo, on 2013-May-15, 12:14, said:

He has no minor shortness, but they have a major double fit?


Then they are not playing Muiderberg.
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Posted 2013-May-16, 10:09

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-May-15, 11:21, said:

I might be being a bit thick, but isn't West going to raise to Three or Four Spades with four trumps and a singleton or void in a minor?

No, the bidding at the table was (2)-AP.
West had
?xx (I think Axx)
KT9xxx

xxxx

East's Muiderberg was off-shape: 6=2=4=1
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Posted 2013-May-16, 10:12

View PostCodo, on 2013-May-15, 12:14, said:

Despite the majority vote, I do not like bidding with the north hand. I would pass.

I'm trying to convince my partner that balancing with this hand is not without risk, but passing is more risky. This doesn't help :)
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Posted 2013-May-18, 02:55

Call the TD, in our regions you can't explain a 6-4 as muiderberg, so your opps will definitely get a penalty.

If South really wants to do something, he better Dbl instead of overcall. But the hand is too weak imo. With the North hand I'd Dbl.
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Posted 2013-May-18, 03:04

Obvious pass by both hands.
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Posted 2013-May-18, 04:55

It seems that there is a consensus that South should pass, but there is some disagreement about balancing by North:
Clearcut reopening 3, obvious pass, DBL?

What style should I go for (who is best the player of repliers till now :rolleyes: ?)
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Posted 2013-May-18, 08:07

View Postkgr, on 2013-May-18, 04:55, said:

What style should I go for (who is best the player of repliers till now :rolleyes: ?)


If Fluffy thinks it's worth a 3-level overcall, then it's certainly worth a 3-level overcall!!
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Posted 2013-May-18, 09:48

It also depends if your partner will jump to 4 whenever he has a 4 card . If he's one of those, then 3 is definitely better than Dbl.
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Posted 2013-May-19, 04:41

My partner told me that I had the North slightly wrong:
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This makes the 3 bid 100%? ;)
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