[aguahombre]

phil_20686, on 2012-September-14, 08:43, said:

Well presumably "an expert" criticised 1S opener.

So now the presumption is eliminated. There might be an expert somewhere who would pass, maybe a few who would choose 2S ---but none who would actually criticise 1S.

[the hog]

rhm, on 2012-September-14, 03:25, said:

This is a style question. The big error is to claim that the call is completely obvious.
I prefer a 2♠ opening but would not object to 1♠.
I would open 1♠ if I held 6331 instead.
I consider the risk of staying too low by opening this hand 2♠ smaller than getting too high by opening 1♠ but it is close.
I also like the preemptive effect of 2♠.

Rainer Herrmann

No this is NOT a style question! In SA this is a 1S opening, end of story. In rhm's system it might be a 2S opening, but in that case rhm is not playing vanilla SA but his own version.
For what its worth i believe opening this 2S is a clear error unless playing strong weak 2s. (These are not part of SA)

[rhm]

the hog, on 2012-September-14, 18:27, said:

No this is NOT a style question! In SA this is a 1S opening, end of story. In rhm's system it might be a 2S opening, but in that case rhm is not playing vanilla SA but his own version.
For what its worth i believe opening this 2S is a clear error unless playing strong weak 2s. (These are not part of SA)

Quote from the ACBL Standard American Yellow Card SYSTEM BOOKLET:

A weak two-bid shows a six-card suit of reasonable quality and 5–11 HCP.

End-quote

I am well aware that on current trends only a minority of top players would consider opening 2♠ on this hand, not least because not many do adhere any more to SA and have changed their range closer to 3-9 HCP.
Yet your Ayatollah like dogmatism (as usual) is completely out of place.

Rainer Herrmann

[Trinidad]

the hog, on 2012-September-14, 18:27, said:

No this is NOT a style question! In SA this is a 1S opening, end of story. In rhm's system it might be a 2S opening, but in that case rhm is not playing vanilla SA but his own version.
For what its worth i believe opening this 2S is a clear error unless playing strong weak 2s. (These are not part of SA)

Don't be silly. Of course this is a style question. While I don't share Rainer's style (for me this is a clear 1♠ opening) he was 100% correct when he pointed out:

rhm, on 2012-September-14, 03:25, said:

This is a style question. The big error is to claim that the call is completely obvious.

I would open 1♠ on any day that ends in "y" and on all days ending with an other letter too. But I would not be upset if an unknown partner would open 2♠.

Rik

[the hog]

rhm, on 2012-September-15, 03:31, said:

Quote from the ACBL Standard American Yellow Card SYSTEM BOOKLET:

A weak two-bid shows a six-card suit of reasonable quality and 5–11 HCP.

End-quote

I am well aware that on current trends only a minority of top players would consider opening 2♠ on this hand, not least because not many do adhere any more to SA and have changed their range closer to 3-9 HCP.
Yet your Ayatollah like dogmatism (as usual) is completely out of place.

Rainer Herrmann

I guess that someone who has little comprehension of hand evaluation might rate this as an 11 count.

[rhm]

the hog, on 2012-September-16, 21:23, said:

I guess that someone who has little comprehension of hand evaluation might rate this as an 11 count.

Yeah, let's agree that we differ on hand evaluation and that you are the greatest hand evaluator of all times.

Rainer Herrmann