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What would you bid (part I)

Poll: Your Bid? (20 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you bid?

  1. Pass (16 votes [80.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.00%

  2. 2 diamonds (4 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  3. 2 clubs (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. X (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   canaya14 

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Posted 2012-July-12, 13:16

IMPS. Red against white.
At third position you hold :

7 6
9 5 4
A K 10 5 3
8 4 2

Your partner opens 1 (can be as short as 2 cards) and RHO overcalls 1.
What would you bid?
(note: according to your system 2 would be not forcing but showing some strength between 8/9 to 12 points)
After some answers i will post second round of bidding
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Posted 2012-July-12, 13:28

I voted for pass, but of course this type of hand is an advertisement for playing 1 (or double) as meaning "I want to bid but don't have a suitable hand & strength for any natural call"
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Posted 2012-July-12, 13:30

I voted for pass, and I don't know that this type of hand is an advertisement for anything.
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Posted 2012-July-12, 17:21

I voted for 2 'cause the OP advertised his system allows him to bid a non-forcing 2.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2012-July-12, 17:24

1nt
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Posted 2012-July-12, 17:35

View PostHanoi5, on 2012-July-12, 17:21, said:

I voted for 2 'cause the OP advertised his system allows him to bid a non-forcing 2.

2 still looks light for the OP system, though I did consider it at some length. Red was amongst the deciding factors for me.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 02:20

It depends on system. As Frances says the book bid here with the most common agreements is pass. There are alternatives though. She gives two - 1 or X to show values and no bid - and a third is to play X here as a 1 response, Stolen Bid style. I do not really understand playing 2 as a NFB but with a lower limit of 8. Also, what does one bid with a GF hand and diamonds? You probably understand your own methods better than we do to be honest. As presented so far it seems that the only 2 realistic options are Pass and 2 - whether this hand qualifies for 2 is a matter of partnership agreement rather than any fine judgement.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 07:01

I voted for pass, but now I like 2. Even though we are a point light we have a good five card suit and three card club support.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 07:07

Pass

If the agreement is 2 shows about 9-12, then I see no reason to violate it with this 9 loser hand.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 10:13

2d

2d = 8/9-12 5+ dia


AKTxx and out seems to meet the intent of the rule if not the exact definition
hard to imagine having the spade J would qualify this hand for 2d but not having
it forbids its use. I even have some clubs in case p feels the need to run from dia.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 11:19

I voted for pass, since this is the bid with this hand with the prescribed methods.

I prefer to play 1 as 4+ and the response I would have made is double as Negative, only promising the unbid minor and the inability to bid 1NT, 1, or raise clubs. Mostly something like this hand.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 11:41

While that Diamond suit has AKTxx, that's it. Pass for me - add the 9 or the Jack to that Diamond suit so it has 6 cards, and then I will bid 2.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 13:40

View Postcanaya14, on 2012-July-12, 13:16, said:

IMPS. Red against white.
At third position you hold :

7 6
9 5 4
A K 10 5 3
8 4 2

Your partner opens 1 (can be as short as 2 cards) and RHO overcalls 1.
What would you bid?
(note: according to your system 2 would be not forcing but showing some strength between 8/9 to 12 points)
After some answers i will post second round of bidding



pass, looks like a balanced 7 count to me.
not between 9 and 12

BUT if pard bids 2d, fair enough, lets move on please.
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