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What is your preference and why?
Edit: we are NV vs. Vul.
Further edit: first seat.
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Posted 2012-July-04, 19:43
What is your preference and why?
Edit: we are NV vs. Vul.
Further edit: first seat.
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Posted 2012-July-04, 19:50
bd71, on 2012-July-04, 19:43, said:
What is your preference and why?
3♠ unless red v white then 2♠. It looks like a pre-empt, doesn't look like a 4♠, but doesn't have enough playing strength due to lack of intermediates in ♠ for 3♠ r/w, whilst also having a little defence.
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Posted 2012-July-04, 20:03
4♠
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Posted 2012-July-04, 20:04
1s
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Posted 2012-July-04, 23:25
If I'm playing a Precision-type system, 1♠. Otherwise, I'm right in line with Statto.
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Posted 2012-July-05, 00:29
I'm dealer? Then, 1♠ or 4♠ depending on how I am feeling, and what I know of Opps and partner. At these colours, 3♠ would miss too many good games I reckon, and could force me to make the last guess if opps bid to 4♥ anyway.
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Posted 2012-July-05, 00:54
3S. This is what a 3S bid looks like to me. Exchange the 9&7 of spades for the J&T and I would open 4.
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Posted 2012-July-05, 01:13
An easy 4♠ bid for me at fav.
I use rule of 2-3-4, and I'd count this as almost 7 tricks.
I use rule of 2-3-4, and I'd count this as almost 7 tricks.
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Posted 2012-July-05, 16:52
Statto, on 2012-July-04, 19:50, said:
It looks like a pre-empt
This part I disagree with the most. Personally I would never open this 3♠ w/r because for me the hand is way too good, but even if you play a preempting style where this is a w/r 3♠ opener, it doesn't 'look like' a preempt. The suit is AQ empty instead of KQJ to 7, i.e. it has defense but not playing tricks, and there is also an outside King. Whatever you decide to open it, the hand 'looks like' an opening bid to me.
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Posted 2012-July-05, 16:54
Funny you posted this, I have opened 4S with this hand type at this vul my whole life and feel like I have had good results with it but I have been considering opening 1 recently. I guess as I get older I get more and more scared of the downsides/high variance of opening 4. I think against weak opps I will always open 4 though, they just react extremely poorly to 4 level preempts imo.
I think 1 and 4 are both fine though and I wouldn't criticize either.
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Posted 2012-July-05, 21:28
In my 2 serious partnerships we loosen/tighten our requirements for preempts according to both vulnerability, defense and position. This question didn't state opener's position. In general for position, tight: 4th > 2nd > 1st > 3rd :loose. Likewise for vulnerability, tight: Unfav > Both > Neither > Fav :loose. (We might also adjust what we do based on the judge quality of our opponents tight: weak > Intermediate > Expert :loose).
This hand would be a 3♠ opening in 2nd seat (intending to double 4♥ to show 2 D-Tricks & invite partner to pass or bid 4♠).
In first seat 1♠ gives us 2 bites at the apple. In 3rd seat 4♠ seems very comfortable. In 4th seat I likely open 2♠.
As vulnerability worsens, my 1st seat action would not change. At unfavorable vulnerability 2nd 3rd and 4th seat would be 2♠.
Any thoughts how position changes your approach?
This hand would be a 3♠ opening in 2nd seat (intending to double 4♥ to show 2 D-Tricks & invite partner to pass or bid 4♠).
In first seat 1♠ gives us 2 bites at the apple. In 3rd seat 4♠ seems very comfortable. In 4th seat I likely open 2♠.
As vulnerability worsens, my 1st seat action would not change. At unfavorable vulnerability 2nd 3rd and 4th seat would be 2♠.
Any thoughts how position changes your approach?
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Posted 2012-July-05, 21:56
655321, on 2012-July-05, 16:52, said:
The suit is AQ empty instead of KQJ to 7...
That's actually why I don't want to open it 4♠, but then, if it makes a difference, I don't normally play NAMYATS.
SteveMoe, on 2012-July-05, 21:28, said:
Any thoughts how position changes your approach?
Good question. I didn't ask because with this hand I think I'd do the same in all of the 1st 3 seats, and assumed the OP wasn't asking about 4th seat, but for other hands it will be a factor.
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