[mgoetze]

You play for the first time with a strong partner with a similar bridge background to your own. Unfortunately, there wasn't much time to discuss before the game so all you managed to agree was that you play "2/1 Walsh Gazzilli UDCA".

OK, so, what are you playing? What are your possible rebids after 1M-1NT/1♥-1♠ and how does the bidding continue after a 2♣ rebid?

[andy_h]

There are many variations of Gazzilli so I personally wouldn't have agreed to play that with a first time partnership without any form of discussion of it so I will wait until a break to discuss that

[Free]

Standard is
- 1M-1X-2♣ is nat or 16+ => 2♦ response is 8+. Other continuations are less than 8HCP, natural (2NT usually minor oriented), and tend to show a 2-card support for opener's Major.
- 1M-1X-2♣-2♦-2M shows <16HCP and ♣ were natural.
- 1M-1X-2♣-2♦-2OM shows a 3 card suit (except 1♥-1NT-2♣-2♦-2♠ showing 4), the rest denies a 3 card OM.
- 1M-1X-2NT shows a good hand with 6M-4m

[Gerben42]

Gazilli can only be played when you have a system script. Don't try it otherwise.

[mgoetze]

Gerben42, on 2010-November-15, 11:48, said:

Gazilli can only be played when you have a system script. Don't try it otherwise.

Unfortunately it's rather difficult to write such a script because there seems to be quite little discussion available about what the various possible structures are and their relative advantages and disadvantages.

[glen]

Stacy's notes:

http://stacyjacobs.c...-suit-openings/

Now Stacy is not a systems maven yet she's able to have a scriptazzilli

[mgoetze]

glen, on 2010-November-15, 16:54, said:

Stacy's notes:

http://stacyjacobs.c...-suit-openings/

Now Stacy is not a systems maven yet she's able to have a scriptazzilli

That's funny, she writes

Quote

I can’t imagine how one would just slip Gazzilli into a standard 2/1 major suit structure, if you do and it works for you that’s terrific. Below you’ll find our complete major suit notes so you can see the treatment in its entire context.

Yet, I could imagine playing more or less that Gazzilli structure while I wouldn't be caught dead played 1M-3♣ as a 3-card limit raise.

Anyway - thanks for the link. Any others?

[glen]

mgoetze, on 2010-November-15, 17:14, said:

... Any others?

Free's
http://freebridge.bl...8/gazzilli.html

India talks Italian:
http://www.bridgeguy...GazzilliND1.pdf
http://www.bridgeguy...GazzilliND2.pdf
http://www.bridgeguy...GazzilliND3.pdf

For these pdfs, scroll to the article

[mgoetze]

glen, on 2010-November-15, 17:28, said:

India talks Italian:
http://www.bridgeguy...GazzilliND1.pdf
http://www.bridgeguy...GazzilliND2.pdf
http://www.bridgeguy...GazzilliND3.pdf

I've seen these. While I do appreciate the Bridge Guys for covering as many conventions as possible, I've found that they often sacrifice quality in order to do it. This write-up didn't convince me at all.

[Zelandakh]

Clairebridge and Bridge with Dan are 2 sites generally worth checking early for any bidding stuff. Dan has Gazzilli zipped up on his systems page.

[mgoetze]

Zelandakh, on 2010-November-15, 20:11, said:

Clairebridge and Bridge with Dan are 2 sites generally worth checking early for any bidding stuff. Dan has Gazzilli zipped up on his systems page.

There are many reasons to hate the gratuitious use of zip - one of them is that you might have noticed these are the same articles as on Bridgeguys if they weren't zipped.

[OleBerg]

This isn't Gazilli, but it is definitely my favourite after 1♥-1♠

1NT = Transfer to clubs, shows 4+ clubs, unlimited*.
2♣ = Transfer to diamonds, shows 4+ diamonds, unlimited*.
2♦ = Transfer to hearts, shows all hands not otherwise mentioned, unlimited*.
2♥ = Minimum with 3-card spade-support.

* These unlimited bids are of course limited by not opening 2♣.

The only thing you loose, is the ability to play 1NT, but all your other bidding becomes more accurate.

I use all 2♠+ bids to show spades-support (with 3 hearts showing 6 hearts and only 3 spades), but I wouldn't mind changing that, if partner insisted.

Continuations:

On 1NT and 2♣ responder bids what he would normally have bid on 2♣ and 2♦. Completing the transfer shows he would have passed. Responder need not go to great length to find an alternative to completing the transfer, as partner has another chance to bid.

Likewise on 2♥, but note the sequence:

1♥-1♠
2♦-2♥
2♠ = 3 card-spade support and more than a minimum.

This is one of my all time favourites:

- You free a lot of 4-card support bids, including minisplinter.
- Minor suits are shown unambigously.
- Three-card supports are shown unambigously, and you can play 2♥, when responder is 4-2-x-x or 4-3-x-x and has decided to bid 1♠.
- In non-fit auctions, you keep the bidding low, allowing more for exploration.

[Free]

Ole, isn't this only possible if you play 1M as unbalanced like you do? Most people get scared if they have to open 1♣ with a 5M332 hand.

[OleBerg]

Free, on 2010-November-16, 04:15, said:

Ole, isn't this only possible if you play 1M as unbalanced like you do? Most people get scared if they have to open 1♣ with a 5M332 hand.

I include the 2-5-3-3 in the 2♦ transfer after 1♥-1♠.

[mgoetze]

OleBerg, on 2010-November-16, 03:52, said:

This isn't Gazilli, but it is definitely my favourite after 1♥-1♠

1NT = Transfer to clubs, shows 4+ clubs, unlimited*.
2♣ = Transfer to diamonds, shows 4+ diamonds, unlimited*.
2♦ = Transfer to hearts, shows all hands not otherwise mentioned, unlimited*.
2♥ = Minimum with 3-card spade-support.

* These unlimited bids are of course limited by not opening 2♣.

This reminds me of Izdebski Transfers as promoted by the_hog.
Which hands, if any, are allowed to break the transfer? I ask especially in light of:

OleBerg, on 2010-November-16, 06:03, said:

I include the 2-5-3-3 in the 2♦ transfer after 1♥-1♠.

I feel that your method would be quite good at IMPs, but that I would not be willing to give up the natural 1NT at MPs.

[OleBerg]

mgoetze, on 2010-November-16, 08:05, said:

This reminds me of Izdebski Transfers as promoted by the_hog.
Which hands, if any, are allowed to break the transfer? I ask especially in light of:



I feel that your method would be quite good at IMPs, but that I would not be willing to give up the natural 1NT at MPs.

Many hands are allowed to break the transfer. You only complete the transfer, if you would have passed the rebid partner is transfering to. Otherwise you bid what you would have bid, if partner had made the natural bid.

Example:

1♥ - 1♠
2♣ - ???

2♦ = I would have passed a natural 2♦ rebid.
2♥+ = This is the bid I would have made, if you had made a normal 2♥ rebid.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

A few weeks ago this was posted at rec.games.bridge :

Gazzilli worth the effort?

by Scott Needham

http://groups.google...d2dc18fbd0e02a#