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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2007-September-23, 11:01

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favorable MP's good opponents

1♣-p-1♦ (could be 3 cards)-?

AQ
AJ542
QJT8
Ax

what's your plan (possible continuations hidden below)?

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unfavorable Teams

(1♠)-?

J9x
Ax
AQxx
AJxx

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Posted 2007-September-23, 11:04

1. 1♥, followed by pass
2. 1NT, half a stopper is enough most of the time
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Posted 2007-September-23, 11:49

what he said ^^
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Posted 2007-September-23, 12:20

1. Double, followed by 1NT. This hand is just too good for a 1♥ bid in my book.

2. Pass. I feel no special desire to play 3NT with no spade stopper. It's possible I will get the chance to bid later depending on how the auction proceeds.
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Posted 2007-September-23, 12:33

1. 1NT natural.
2. Pass. But 1NT is not horrible.
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Posted 2007-September-23, 13:08

1. Starting with a double is clear. We have 21 HCP, it's just too much to not start with a double. We can still have a game when the opponents open and respond, believe it or not. After the 1S response from partner we have the option of bidding 1N or 2H. I would choose 2H because I feel like our most likely game is 4H and I want partner to feel encouraged to bid that. Of course if I play in 2H opposite a stiff I will regret my choice.

2. I would just pass but red/white is the only vul where I would strongly consider bidding 1N.

edit: leaving this up as a good example of self ownage.
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Posted 2007-September-23, 13:24

Jlall, on Sep 23 2007, 02:08 PM, said:

1. Starting with a double is clear. We have 21 HCP,

count again tiger

Of course since the original post gave all the spot cards except Ax of clubs, I can see how it looks like AK, or maybe that just comes from too much holdem ♥
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Posted 2007-September-23, 13:38

jdonn, on Sep 23 2007, 02:24 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 23 2007, 02:08 PM, said:

1. Starting with a double is clear. We have 21 HCP,

count again tiger

Of course since the original post gave all the spot cards except Ax of clubs, I can see how it looks like AK, or maybe that just comes from too much holdem ♥

ok im on crack sorry. I would still double.
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Posted 2007-September-23, 13:51

Jlall, on Sep 23 2007, 09:38 PM, said:

ok im on crack sorry. I would still double.

Juniors, pffff .... When I was young we only drank buttermilk during bridge events. Maybe a cup of tea or chocolate milk afterwards if we won.

Pass the first one, 1♥ and sell out to 1NT on the second one. Of course it depends on the kind of opps, I'm sure I would have to be more aggressive against some, but I have little experience with that. When I was young we didn't respond with less than 6 HCPs ....
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Posted 2007-September-23, 13:58

helene_t, on Sep 23 2007, 09:51 PM, said:

Pass the first one, 1♥ and sell out to 1NT on the second one. Of course it depends on the kind of opps, I'm sure I would have to be more aggressive against some, but I have little experience with that. When I was young we didn't respond with less than 6 HCPs ....

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Posted 2007-September-24, 02:03

I like Helenes ideas.

Bid 1 Heart on the second one. If they don´t accept your bid, bid 1 NT, banning pd from a horrible 3 NT contract.
If they accept your bid, sell out on their 1 NT and beat them because they may get a wrong idea about your shape.
However this is not possible at BBO, there I would just pass.

In Nr. 1 there are about 42 HCPS in my hand, so I will pass, I play pass to show 41+ HCP or 0-10. This may be encrypted and forbidden, but so far it works well for me. So far pd always knew whether my pass was weak or strong.
With about 18 HCPs I had bid my longest suit, which happens to be Hearts.
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Posted 2007-September-24, 02:13

First hand:

1♣ p 1♦ 1♥
1NT p p p

Second hand:

Pass, possibly I'd choose either PASS or pass.
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Posted 2007-September-24, 02:33

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Posted 2007-September-24, 02:34

Hi,

#1 Either 1H or 1NT (assuming 1 NT is natural),
I most likely go with 1H, but could understand
1NT.
If I bid 1H, I will most likely pass, if the bidding
comes back to me, but I have only water flowing
through my veins.

#2 X, the add. strength is compensation enough,
and I will pass a min. response from partner.

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Posted 2007-September-24, 05:05

1.Dbl+1NT
2. Pass
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Posted 2007-September-24, 05:13

OK, Gerben doesn't seem to be smoking anything, but then again he's not a junior anymore.
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Posted 2007-September-24, 05:25

helene_t, on Sep 24 2007, 08:13 PM, said:

OK, Gerben doesn't seem to be smoking anything, but then again he's not a junior anymore.

but still dutchy....

Well maybe, he has been too long to the boring non smoking Germany.....
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Posted 2007-September-24, 06:02

whereagles, on Sep 23 2007, 05:49 PM, said:

what he said ^^

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Posted 2007-September-24, 06:35

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#2 X, the add. strength is compensation enough,
and I will pass a min. response from partner.


Do you also pass a non-min. response like 3♥?

Write 100 times "I shall not double with only two cards in an unbid major with insufficient values."
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Posted 2007-September-24, 07:11

Gerben42, on Sep 24 2007, 07:35 AM, said:

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#2 X, the add. strength is compensation enough,
and I will pass a min. response from partner.


Do you also pass a non-min. response like 3♥?

Write 100 times "I shall not double with only two cards in an unbid major with insufficient values."

I hope a computer scrip will do ...

Hopefully I am free to choose the language.

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Marlowe

PS: After 3H I have a problem, I may try 3S
asking for a stopper, maybe partner has one.
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