[jim420]

MBC hand. I was West.

Scoring: IMP

W N E S
- P 1♥ 2♦
2♠ 3♦ 3NT P
P P

lead ♦A
3NE-4

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[Walddk]

98% to East and 2% to you. Your hand is not quite good enough for 2♠ (I would double), but that is not really the problem. Your partner already opened a more than dubious 1♥ (whatever system you play), and no one asked him to bid again when his RHO did.

He has a clearcut pass. I suspect that he would have bid 3NT no matter what, so on a very good day I would give all 100% to him.

You were extremely lucky not to get doubled. I would if I had been North. I trust my partner's overcall at the 2-level rather than my LHO's 3NT.

Roland

[whereagles]

your pard must be a newbie

[jim420]

should I have pulled to 4♣?

[neilkaz]

jim420, on May 30 2007, 08:06 AM, said:

should I have pulled to 4♣?

Heck no ! PD is promising a clearly better hand then he has shown.

I'll also mention that since I open aggressively, I don't need to stretch to open that 10 HCP in 3rd seat. I might here but then I certainly don't bid again. The 3NT bid is sickening.

A passed hand 2S free bid on a 5 carder and 8 HCP is a bit light for me, and I'd make a neg double to bring both black suits into the picture.

[skjaeran]

I favor light openings. But that 2nd hand 1♥ is really sick IMO, unless you play some non-standard system. The 3NT bid is far worse - I lack the words to describe it.

I don't know why you bid 2♠. It's an overbid, and a negative double is more descriptive. But still - that doesn't account for the final result.

I'll assign 5% to west and 150% to east.

Btw, I'd turn the table doubling with the north hand.

[neilkaz]

Oops I thought it was a 3rd hand 1♥ opening since this is a clear pass in 2nd seat for normal systems. Noting 2nd seat, east has opened 2HCP light and then bid 3NT !! Sickening and so lucky to not be doubled !

.. neilkaz ..

[P_Marlowe]

why discuss? -200

#1 East has no opener, unless you play limited
openings, i.e. a strong club system with 4
card mayors, ... and than why do you post
it here
#2 2S, ok if playing NFB, but I prefer neg. X,
because I would show both suits (matter of
style), playing 2S as forcing ok ...
#3 3NT?, ever heard about the red card, if you
take west serious (i.e. he holds a forcing 2S),
why not go for blood?

With kind regards
Marlowe

[P_Marlowe]

jim420, on May 30 2007, 09:06 AM, said:

should I have pulled to 4♣?

why? As long as they dont X, no need to run.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[the hog]

East has no opener; South does not have an overcall; West made an over bid, but I can understand 2S; East's 3NT is absurd.

North bid his hand impeccably.

[vuroth]

Did north bid impeccably? I wonder.

South overcalled, which promises what, at least 8HCP? With 9HCP, North should know that E/W are light for their 3NT (at most 23 HCP). Yes, it's looking like one of those 60HCP-in-the-deck deals, but the only person you're obliged to trust is partner.

If E/W had bid clubs on the way, I might be too afraid that they have long running clubs to double. But neither opponent names clubs as their best suit, so how are they making?

It does require a bit of reasoning, but shouldn't any beginner/intermediate be able to find the double, as north?

V

[jtfanclub]

vuroth, on Jun 4 2007, 10:53 AM, said:

It does require a bit of reasoning, but shouldn't any beginner/intermediate be able to find the double, as north?

You have a fit, therefore, they are 90% likely to have a fit.

You know their fit isn't in spades, hearts, or diamonds.

Therefore, they should have a fit in clubs.

While I seriously doubt that they have enough tricks in clubs to make 3NT, I'd not want to risk them running to 4 clubs. I would, for example, bid the same way with the West hand if it had one fewer heart and one more club, and now 4 clubs probably makes. Even with the hand as is, they lose, what, one in each suit? Something like that.

There's another issue. Trust your partner, but he doesn't have to have that strong a hand- it was just an overcall, after all. Watching them take one diamond, three hearts, and 5 clubs would not be fun.