[kgr]

Scoring: IMP

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1D-(2C)-DBL-(P)-?
what do you bid now?
(In the real bidding 1D was preceeded by 2 passes. would that make a difference?)

Thanks,
Koen

[P_Marlowe]

2D, you will get the chance to bid again.
If partner is a passed hand, you cant be
sure, i.e. you could try 3D.

But depending on your agreements, this may
already be forcing (to game or 4D), because
the neg. X may already promise +8/9HCP.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[pbleighton]

2D, 3D shows a different hand.

You can always keep bidding diamonds, unless it goes All Pass, in which case game is unlikely.

Peter

[Codo]

Bridge is about tricks, not about points. My hand has 6.5 trick. Too many for a 2 Diamond rebid.

[whereagles]

Indeed. 3♦ is correct, even playing a good-bad 2NT.

[pbleighton]

"Bridge is about tricks, not about points."

True, but strain matters.

What does pd do when you rebid 3D and he has K10xx-Axxxx-x-Qxx or some such hand?

This is a great hand if you play in diamonds, not nearly so good in NT.

Make the diamond suit a major, and it's worth a jump rebid. You can insist on 4M over pd's 3NT. 5m is much dicier.

Or make the DJ the DQ, and the SA the SK, and it's worth 3D - you have a running suit.

Peter

[mcphee]

3D for me, I want to stress my suit and hope to play 3N or even 5D. Might even reach a S game who knows, I hope 3D makes it easy for partner to bid 3N really.

[P_Marlowe]

whereagles, on Mar 11 2007, 08:04 AM, said:

Indeed. 3♦ is correct, even playing a good-bad 2NT.

If you play good-bad 2NT, 3D would be forcing to game,
and which game do you want to play, opposite a min. neg.
dbl, with no club stopper?
... but I would say, that the hand is worth 2NT folowed by
3D.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jdonn]

3♦ for sure, partner needs so little for game. xxxx Axxx x Qxxx is on picking up the diamonds to make 3NT, and partner will pass 2♦ with even a fair amount more holding a singleton diamon. How can I bid just 2♦?

[whereagles]

P_Marlowe, on Mar 11 2007, 01:35 PM, said:

1. If you play good-bad 2NT, 3D would be forcing to game,
and which game do you want to play, opposite a min. neg.
dbl, with no club stopper?

2. ... but I would say, that the hand is worth 2NT folowed by
3D.

2. If you count only HCPs yes, it's worth only 2NT+3♦. But this hand has enough extras to warrant a 3♦ bid.

1. That depends on how you play the good-bad 2NT. Some (including me) play that the free 3♦ bid shows 15-17, but is NF.

[han]

clear 3D.

[pclayton]

3♦ looks right, especially with the side Ace (QT). Heart and club stops, and a couple of diamonds give us a gin 3N.

[Fluffy]

3♦

I played a very similar hand this weekend but with a major will open another post

[gwnn]

good-bad over 2♣? How many players here play that? (btw I'm in the 3♦ camp)

[Codo]

pbleighton, on Mar 11 2007, 10:31 PM, said:

"Bridge is about tricks, not about points."

True, but strain matters.

What does pd do when you rebid 3D and he has K10xx-Axxxx-x-Qxx or some such hand?

This is a great hand if you play in diamonds, not nearly so good in NT.

Make the diamond suit a major, and it's worth a jump rebid. You can insist on 4M over pd's 3NT. 5m is much dicier.

Or make the DJ the DQ, and the SA the SK, and it's worth 3D - you have a running suit.

Peter

If I had the Q of D and/or the Ace of Spade, this hand would be no big problem, nobody would think about a 2 Diamond rebid. So the question is, where is your borderline for a jump and the census was quite well diveded between the guys who prefer 2 or 3 Diamonds.

[HeartA]

2.5 ♦, seriously. I have too much playing tricks and too little defensive values.

[kgr]

Thanks for the answers. I did bid 2D and the bidding ended there.
We missed 3NT.
I think partner had 2 aces and DQ. Probably he should have bid more as well, but if he had less (eg not DQ but Dxxx) then 3NT would also make.

[mike777]

Interesting post, good example of how a simple 2clubs overcall after a 1d opening can cause problems.

[HeartA]

kgr, on Mar 13 2007, 06:25 PM, said:

Thanks for the answers. I did bid 2D and the bidding ended there.
We missed 3NT.
I think partner had 2 aces and DQ. Probably he should have bid more as well, but if he had less (eg not DQ but Dxxx) then 3NT would also make.

I think your pd owed you a raise.

[han]

HeartA, on Mar 12 2007, 10:15 PM, said:

2.5 ♦, seriously. I have too much playing tricks and too little defensive values.

I don't think you are likely to defend after you jump to 3D.