Benellis58 GIB bashing on repeat Groundhog Day
#821
Posted 2026-March-10, 08:45
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#822
Posted 2026-March-10, 10:16
The GIBBO treatment of a 2NT response to partner's 2C opening is and always has been a masterpiece of stupidity, as illustrated by the GIB definition: "Positive NT - 2-5 clubs; 2-5 diamonds; 2-4 hearts; 2-4 spades; 8+ HCP". What is the RUSH to waste the entire two level of bidding space to state this virtually useless and largely uninformative parcel of BILGE?
"2-5 clubs" and "2-5 diamonds". So WHAT? Who CARES? It's vague, wide-ranging, and tells us NOTHING useful.
"2-4 hearts" and "2-4 spades". What, in the GIBBO system, would he do with a flattish hand, 8+ HCP, but a FIVE-card major not "good enough" by GIBBO standards and definitions to make a positive response in that major? 2D, I assume (?) - the SAME call that he SHOULD make INSTEAD of 2NT on MANY of the hands where he foolishly responds 2NT in their miserable joke of a system!
"8+ HCP". So...he COULD have 8...or he COULD (theoretically) have 37, since no upper limit is specified. Oh yeah, THAT'S useful - NOT!
This system is wretched not only because it wastes an entire level of bidding room while saying NOTHING useful, but also because:
One: It can easily wrongside the contract by making the weaker hand the declarer, since NT will often be the strain selected.
Two: It often makes the WEAKER hand "captain", contrary to all logic!
Three: It makes it harder to find suit fits, especially 4-4 major suit fits.
Four: It leads to a lot of guessing...when a better system would either ELIMINATE the guessing or would at least make it "educated" guessing.
As always, although I have total, unreserved contempt for the bridge "abilities" of the GIBBO robots, I do sympathize with them, because it must be REALLY difficult to bid well when you are tightly locked into the straitjacket of one of the most unworkable and antiquated bidding systems in the history of the game.
Here, after North's systemic but stupid 2NT call, I, as South, first did what I always do when this BLEMISH of an auction arises: I cursed the GIBBO system and the GIBBO robots. Then I checked various definitions to see my bidding options in the disreputable and tarnished GIBBO system. As expected, the GIB definitions I saw were laughably, hopelessly bad - the type of trash that I sadly EXPECT to see every time I read a GIB definition.
If I bid 3NT, it would show EXACTLY 22 HCP. If I bid 4NT it would show 23-24 HCP. Note that if North had responded 2D instead of the incredibly stupid 2NT, I could have bid 2NT showing 22-24 and we could have easily and comfortably had a good, scientific auction...AND we could have comfortably STOPPED in 2NT or 3NT if either had seemed right. But HERE...with the SAME 23 or 24 that I could have shown by bidding (only) TWO no trump over 2D, I must now...LEAP...to FOUR no trump, which once in a while will be too high.
Furthermore, on the actual hand, I had twenty-FIVE HCP, but even a leap to FOUR no trump only showed a maximum of twenty-FOUR, whereas had North bid 2D rather than 2NT, in any DECENT system I could EASILY have shown 25 HCP either through "Kokish" (aka "Birthright") OR, more primitively, by bidding 3NT over 2D. Yet in the MIRACULOUSLY inefficient and astoundingly unworkable 2C structure stupidly played by the GIBBO robots, you are UNABLE to show your hand cheaply or effectively. Garbage is garbage, and the GIBBO 2C structure is indeed garbage of the worst, foulest, rankest sort imaginable.
I made the best of a bad lot by bidding 4NT, showing "only" 23-24 when I actually had 25. The ox in the North accepted, leaping to 6NT. His call was defined as showing "10-12 HCP", although...of COURSE...his bid not match his own GIB definition, since he had "only" 9. As I have so often said (sigh!), either have the robots respect their own definitions, or...better yet...CHANGE the pathetic definitions!
As you can see, North's stupid 2NT response in the stupid GIBBO system DID wrongside the contract, as you would much rather - not surprisingly - declare from the "big" South side than from the "small" North side.
Fortunately, despite the wrongsiding and despite the atrocious auction and unforgivably bad system, we took all 13 tricks. The heart king was onside, but that still brought us up to only 12. How did we take a 13th? Simple . We were wise enough to have two GIBBO robots "defending" against us, and the total REJECT in the West chair...PITCHED DOWN to a STIFF queen of clubs! They, their system, their definitions - they ALL rot!
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#823
Posted 2026-March-10, 23:19
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#824
Posted 2026-March-10, 23:55
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#825
Posted 2026-March-11, 00:20
South declares 1NT with this combined heart holding: He has the J96 and his partner, dummy North, has Q73. South wins TWO (!) heart tricks...and NEVER loses ANY!
Here's how the East-West "defenders" (GIBBO robots, of COURSE) allowed this to happen:
West had the A542 and led the 2 at trick one. Declarer South called for dummy North's 3. East, with K108, played the 10. South won the jack - his FIRST heart trick.
West later won trick four and played a second round of hearts. He had the A54 left and played the 5. Dummy North had Q7 left and declarer South called for the 7. East had K8 left and played the EIGHT. Declarer South, with 96 remaining, was pleased and surprised to see that his NINE had won the trick... even though the opponents still had the ace AND the king. Anyway, that was South's SECOND heart trick on the hand. South took ALL the remaining tricks, so hearts were never played again except as PITCHES. NS scored three overtricks in their 1NT contract. The GIBBO robot "defenders" had put on yet ANOTHER show for the ages- a CLOWN show for the ages!
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#826
Posted 2026-March-11, 19:29
benellis58, on 2026-March-11, 00:20, said:
South declares 1NT with this combined heart holding: He has the J96 and his partner, dummy North, has Q73. South wins TWO (!) heart tricks...and NEVER loses ANY!
A better declarer would have taken 3 heart tricks! How? Same way that you get to Carnegie Hall. Practice, practice, practice.
#827
Posted 2026-March-11, 23:12
#829
Posted 2026-March-11, 23:20
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#830
Posted 2026-March-12, 00:21
One: North begins by passing his partner's 1C opening bid, immediately demonstrating what a truly woeful player he is.
Two: After passed hand East balances with 1H and South bids 1NT showing 18-19 HCP, West bids two HEARTS (!) with 742, 64, K9643, KJ4. What a lummox! And (sigh) this twit isn't even following his own GIB definition of "3+ hearts...". The ignorance of these GIBBO robots is staggering...EXACTLY as we ALWAYS expect.
Three: The twerp in the North is now THRILLED to bid 2S, perhaps trying to compensate for his M.O.R.O.N.I.C. pass on the preceding round.
Four: East bids 3H. Lord knows why.
Five: South and West pass, and NOW - in passout seat - North, who earlier felt he couldn't POSSIBLY respond to pard's lowly 1C opener, NOW...bids 3NT on his bland 4-3-2-4 FIVE-count opposite a partner who has shown at MOST 19 HCP and possibly as "few" as 18. Thank HEAVEN these utter dolts became "bridge players" rather than politicians, teachers, doctors, nurses, bus drivers, or ANYTHING of importance, because at least in bridge their unparalleled stupidity has no SERIOUS consequences to the world. The fact that South makes the contract (for a score of 92.9 %) does not justify the inconsistency of North's typically pathetic bidding.
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#831
Posted 2026-March-12, 00:25
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#832
Posted 2026-March-12, 00:39
At trick four, South leads his spade 3 towards dummy's J72. West now shows why he has earned a worldwide reputation as one of the worst "defenders" in the history of bridge: He makes the truly imbecilic play of POPPING his spade king from K1094, after which he follows his lifelong philosophy of immediately returning the suit DECLARER just played. It works as "well" for him as his hopeless "defensive" plays usually do: He enters minus 850 on his scorecard. I wonder if cockroaches would be as bad at bridge as the GIBBO robots are? Probably not, because cockroaches know how to survive, so they have demonstrated SOME intelligence.
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#833
Posted 2026-March-12, 01:52
Remind me: What do the letters "GIB" stand for? Oh yes, "Ginsberg's INTELLIGENT Bridgeplayer" (sic).
Has there ever...ever... EVER been a more INACCURATE name?
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#834
Posted 2026-March-12, 16:09
The dolt's bid doesn't even match his own GIB definition, which is "6+ hearts; 9-11 HCP; 10-12 total points". He has a mere FIVE hearts, NOT six...let alone six PLUS. He has a mere EIGHT HCP, NOT nine...or ten...or ELEVEN. And as for "10-12 total points", that's just the usual GIB garbage not calculated scientifically but arrived at randomly by adding one point to both the lower and upper limit of the defined HCP. And why would there be "total" points here ANYWAY, since no fit has even been identified except in this "heart" pipedream of North's?
I believe that a THREE heart bid by North in the GIBBO system would have shown 5+ hearts and been forcing, so if he thought his hand was worth a game force (which he obviously did), he should have bid 3H, which would have allowed his partner to bid either 3NT or 4H, depending on which he thought would be better.
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#835
Posted 2026-March-12, 16:16
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#836
Posted 2026-March-12, 21:41
If I were ever forced to play FOR MY LIFE with a GIBBO robot as my "partner", I'd probably say, "Don't waste time, fellows. Start digging my grave NOW." The GIBBO robots absolutely rot.
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#837
Posted 2026-March-12, 21:53
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#838
Posted 2026-March-12, 22:45
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#840
Posted 2026-March-13, 18:02
Next: North's 3S is defined as "4+ spades; 11+ total points". You know, somehow I think we could have figured out all by ourselves that North has at least four spades, and apart from that, the definition tells us NOTHING new. It repeats the same VAGUE information about points that it already told us earlier, and THIS time - a time when it would be USEFUL to know if his 3S call is forcing in the GIBBO system, it tells us NOTHING about it!
Meanwhile, look at the auction submitted by the COWARDLY GIBBO robot in the East: With his EIGHT hearts, he gathered up ALL his robotic "courage" and timidly squeaked out "1H" but afterwards did nothing but pass. He was SILENT when North bid 2H. He didn't BID hearts at a higher level. He didn't even double 2H, perhaps TERRIFIED that NS would redouble and make five overtricks.
So, NS played 3S, scored plus 140 for 96.4 % on the board, while East's "bravery" earned him a pathetic 3.6 %. Gee, I wonder why? Oh, maybe it was because...EW are ICE COLD for 4H!
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