[mikl_plkcc]

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3♠ showed 2 ♠, but it only had 1. If I held 6 I would have bid 4♠ ending in disaster.

[hrothgar]

Wow!

The robot made a poor bid! I have never seen anything of the sort before.
Thanks for drawing this to our attention!

You are a special special boy and its terrible what that bad robots have done to you!

Oh, FWIW, playing 4♠ if you had a 6=1=4=2 hand or some such is hardly going to be a disaster

[smerriman]

Yep, the description doesn't match the hand. So what? Lots of descriptions don't match the hand; some deliberate, some not deliberate. Pescetom will complain about disclosure but this is simply a fundamental part of how the robot works.

In this case, the rules says the free robot needs an extra HCP to raise diamonds, and stoppers to bid 3NT, so every one of its bids would have been a "lie". But as usual, real GIB doesn't bid 3♠, and even if it did, changing the description is definitely not a solution; that would make things worse.

[mikl_plkcc]

smerriman, on 2025-May-27, 23:04, said:

Yep, the description doesn't match the hand. So what? Lots of descriptions don't match the hand; some deliberate, some not deliberate. Pescetom will complain about disclosure but this is simply a fundamental part of how the robot works.

In this case, the rules says the free robot needs an extra HCP to raise diamonds, and stoppers to bid 3NT, so every one of its bids would have been a "lie". But as usual, real GIB doesn't bid 3♠, and even if it did, changing the description is definitely not a solution; that would make things worse.

My 3♦ is absolutely forcing. Why does it need an HCP to raise?

[smerriman]

I have no idea why certain rules were programmed. Maybe they chose 7 because if it shows 6, the robot on the other side was passing with minimum hands because 18 + 6 = 24. The point is, it doesn't matter, since GIB will bid 4♦ anyway, unless you are playing with this cheap imitation.

[thepossum]

sad when it happens
We all have to occasoinally but Gib slightly more than most
- and sometimes totally ignroing a beautiful minor suit

[HardVector]

In bridge, you occasionally have to make a bid that is a lie. This is one such case. I have 0% problem with the bot's 3s bid. It wanted to keep 3n available as a contract in case you had good hearts. When you denied it, it placed it into the good 5d game. I'm guessing if you had bid 4s, it would have still bid 5d.

[smerriman]

HardVector, on 2025-May-28, 22:58, said:

When you denied it, it placed it into the good 5d game. I'm guessing if you had bid 4s, it would have still bid 5d.

You would guess wrong. Not only would it pass 4♠, but 5♦ would have been a cuebid. And it's definitely not bidding 3♠ "because it wanted to keep 3NT open"; the free robot will perfectly happily bid 4♦ with an extra jack of any suit.