[Cyberyeti]

You are not playing 2/1 FG.

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Partner has shown either 6+♥ or 5♥/4♠ you open 1N with all 5♥332s

What now ? I know our agreements on whether 3♣ is forcing, but don't know how other people play it, I would suspect it shows a better suit than this either way.

[TMorris]

3♣ is nto forcing for me. I would bid 3nt.

[shyams]

I play 2/1 with a regular partner. So the 3♣ will not be an issue for me.

I play a SAYC styled custom bidding system with another chap. The 3♣ rebid will be nonforcing although partner will often find a third bid with even a tiny bit extra.
* If I were holding the South hand with this partner, I would definitely bid 4♥ (I don't think it is close)

[P_Marlowe]

3NT

You sell the hand as 5332 in the 13-15 range, ..., a side question may be,
why not respond 3NT direct to 1H, but this may be hindsight.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jillybean]

3C nf, I have to bid 3nt which often kills the auction. Or worse, start misrepresenting my hand and bid a short suit at the 3 level.
This hand is one of the reasons I play 2/1 and not SA

[mw64ahw]

I've taken the invitational hands with 6+m out from the 2/1 GI sequence so that 3m is now GF.
1♥-2NT is now 6+♣ or 3♥ GI. Opener breaks the transfer to GF
1♥-2♠ is lim+ 4+♥

[Cyberyeti]

P_Marlowe, on 2024-January-13, 05:57, said:

3NT

You sell the hand as 5332 in the 13-15 range, ..., a side question may be,
why not respond 3NT direct to 1H, but this may be hindsight.

With kind regards
Marlowe

3N is precisely 3343/3334 for us

[Cyberyeti]

mw64ahw, on 2024-January-13, 07:03, said:

I've taken the invitational hands with 6+m out from the 2/1 GI sequence so that 3m is now GF.
1♥-2NT is now 6+♣ or 3♥ GI. Opener breaks the transfer to GF
1♥-2♠ is lim+ 4+♥

We play 1♥-2N lim+, 1♥-2♠ SJS single suited or fit

[helene_t]

4♥, there was some wellknown bidding theorist who said the AK is a 3-card suit

[akwoo]

3N at MPs, 4H at IMPs

[pescetom]

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[Cyberyeti]

On the actual hand, it doesn't matter what you do, partner will bid 4♥ if you don't pass it out before he does, but I thought 3♣ (our agreement is that while 1♣-1♥-2♣-2♥ is encouraging NF, repeating your suit over partner's repeat of suit at the 3 level is forcing), 3♦, 3N and 4♥ were all in the frame.

I decided on 3N, partner with QJ10 to 7 decided that might not be best. Given that his hand was Ax, QJ1098xx, Kxx, x there was an easy diamond ruff in dummy to make 11 as against the 10 you make in NT.

[pescetom]

pescetom, on 2024-January-13, 14:10, said:

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Not sure if the upvotes showed sympathy for my indecision or appreciation of my silence for once
In reality this was the only way to cancel when I belatedly remembered that this could be 5♥/4♠ for them (and my train had arrived).

[Tramticket]

helene_t, on 2024-January-13, 09:20, said:

4♥, there was some wellknown bidding theorist who said the AK is a 3-card suit

Yes and that club suit looks like five-card suit to me.

[mycroft]

I do play 2/1 GF, but in one case the old way, where 3♣ would be NF (but highly encouraging). I can't afford to do that for two reasons (I don't want to play 3♣ with that strength, and I don't want to play 3♣ with that suit); I'd probably bid 3♦ and then hearts wherever I need to. I don't think this changes with American SA, where 2♣ is "promises a rebid" (and, so, obviously 3♦ is GF).

But I'm biased by playing a style (even without 2/1) where 2♥ isn't on the Flannery hand (even if I'm not playing Flannery). AK doesn't have to be 3; partner's got 6. Therefore, if I can't bid 3♦ for some reason (or if 1♥; 2♥ is more limited than I play it, and there's no chance at slam opposite 13 with solidifying trumps), next choice is 4♥, not 3NT.

[gszes]

IMHO 1h 2c 2h while not limiting the hand does limit the hand if opener has 64 H/D. With extra values the stronger hand would bid 2d then repeat hearts later. This should make it perfectly safe to bid 3d in an attempt to find out more about opener's hand. If opener has 4D and raises them their hand is minimum and you can convert to hearts. The downside
is if bidding 3d instead of 4h promises extra values when we later bid hearts. If that is the case I would simply bid 4h over 2h.

[Douglas43]

3H for me. If partner passes that is probably all we are making.

[awm]

I would bid 3♦ next. This encourages partner to bid 3NT with good spade controls, while also giving partner the opportunity to bid 3♥ which I can raise or to show delayed club support. Of course this nominally shows 4+♦, but partner has already denied a diamond suit with the 2♥ rebid.