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#1 User is online   jillybean 

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Posted 2021-April-14, 00:06


We were one of four pairs, out of 18, who bid it. It's hard to argue with results but I don't know how we could bid it intelligently.

Playing 12-14 nt , I open 1

1 2 (clubs, gf)
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3 4*
5 2+Q ....
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Posted 2021-April-14, 05:22

1N - 3S (Splinter)

4D - 4N (Keycard)

5D (3) - 5H (Q?)

5N Q+no KS or KC - 6C (Qc?)

7D (yes) - 7N (Can count 13)
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Posted 2021-April-14, 06:53

I can concoct a reply using 4-way transfers, but with a known (by North) 34/35 points between you the following is all that is required after South's response

1NT-4 (Super Gerber version)
4NT (2 Aces & 1 King)-7NT
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Posted 2021-April-14, 07:29

Converting our NT system to strong NT.

1N-2(weak one minor or GF SI both minors at least 5-4)
3(4+)-3(both minors cue agrees )
3(cue)-4(cue)
4-4(aces ?)
4(0/3)-4N(Q?)
5N(yes, no side kings but extras)-6(I have one of the K/Q, bid the grand with the other)
7-7N
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Posted 2021-April-14, 07:43

after a 1n opening 15-17 we are going to be in at least 6n so how do we search for 7? IMHO
1n 15-17
2s Minor Suit Stayman (MSS) (0 to unlimited)
3d 4+ diamonds denies 4+ clubs
4c RKC for diamonds (you can use CRO here as well)
5d 0 or 3
5h specific king ask (yes even knowing p has no extra kings because it can get us info on club Q yay or nay)
5n no kings but a useful Q (clubs Q is useful because of the MSS bid)
7n can count 4c 4d 3h 2s as a minimum
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Posted 2021-April-14, 08:45

I bid it easy but will find 4-1/5-0 and 4-0 in opposite hands :(
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Posted 2021-April-14, 09:03

View PostLBengtsson, on 2021-April-14, 08:45, said:

I bid it easy but will find 4-1/5-0 and 4-0 in opposite hands :(


Well, if both are guarded by the same hand you can find a simple squeeze by playing off the majors winners first. Posted Image
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Posted 2021-April-14, 10:46

View PostWinstonm, on 2021-April-14, 09:03, said:

Well, if both are guarded by the same hand you can find a simple squeeze by playing off the majors winners first. Posted Image


Actually if E has the 4 diamonds you can pick them up, so it's only an issue if W has 4 diamonds and E 5 clubs.
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Posted 2021-April-14, 10:56

View PostCyberyeti, on 2021-April-14, 10:46, said:

Actually if E has the 4 diamonds you can pick them up, so it's only an issue if W has 4 diamonds and E 5 clubs.


And if such is the case, the bridge god must really hate you. Posted Image
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Posted 2021-April-14, 11:09

View PostWinstonm, on 2021-April-14, 10:56, said:

And if such is the case, the bridge god must really hate you. Posted Image


Oh they do, 2 recent examples, we bid a grand that demanded 2 suits only missing the J were Jxxx offside and they were. Also were originally cost a swiss teams event by investigating a slam, signing off in 5 and getting the 5-0 offside break required to beat it. Then when they stuck the results up on the net we found a score entered the wrong way to win by a VP.
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Posted 2021-April-15, 04:07

View PostCyberyeti, on 2021-April-14, 11:09, said:

Oh they do, 2 recent examples, we bid a grand that demanded 2 suits only missing the J were Jxxx offside and they were. Also were originally cost a swiss teams event by investigating a slam, signing off in 5 and getting the 5-0 offside break required to beat it. Then when they stuck the results up on the net we found a score entered the wrong way to win by a VP.

I was thinking when you went down in 5, the other table peacefully played in 3 making 10 tricks. Or had left your teammates defend in 4 something for 1 or 2 NV undoubled tricks. Same for the grand, they would be playing 4 making 11 on a sloppy play🤣🤣.
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