[pescetom]

miamijd, on 2019-October-03, 14:17, said:

A lot of folks nowadays would open that one 1H.

And a lot of those who would not would still not consider it an ideal 2H because too close to 1H.

[PhilG007]

miamijd, on 2019-October-03, 14:17, said:

A lot of folks nowadays would open that one 1H.

2♥ on that hand would be OK in 3rd or 4th seat. As dealer or in 2nd to speak its a shade too weak.
Exchange the Q♣ for the K♣ and I would open 2♥ as dealer or 2nd seat.

[brimstone]

661_Pete, on 2019-October-02, 12:59, said:

Holding the following at Pairs MPs, I chose to open:

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Would you have rather passed, on this rubbish?

My excuses are: favourable vulnerability, not-very-strong opponents, and this was the last hand of the session and we were somewhat pressed for time. I knew that if we over-ran our time slot we'd be averaged, I was hoping for something a bit better!

This was the full deal:

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South should have either doubled or bid something over my 2♥ - they have 3NT cold - but she passed, and my 2♥ was passed out. The ♠ lead went to my A and I finessed 9♥, losing to the J. A spade ruff then a heart to Q. Can you blame S for going up with the A? So I end up with four heart tricks, a spade, a diamond and even a club once AK have been driven out. Seven tricks.

-50 should have given us a clear top - all but one of the other tables were in 3NT by NS - made easily. Alas! the remaining table somehow opted for 5♦ which went down on a ♠ lead and presumably a subsequent ruff. So we had to settle for second-best.

Even so, I think I got away with murder...

I would much rather NOT have the ♠Ace. The hand is much purer without this card and it becomes a routine 2♥ opener for many in the UK.

[maartenxq]

TylerE, on 2019-October-02, 13:38, said:

This has nothing to do with whether you open 2♥ (or not) and everything to do with south being, apparently, clinically dead.

Indeed, due to opponents mistake ( other expressions spring to mind, but let decency prevail) you have a great score and you see fit to boast about.


Maarten Baltussen

[Tramticket]

pescetom, on 2019-October-03, 14:23, said:

And a lot of those who would not would still not consider it an ideal 2H because too close to 1H.

Can a 2♥ bid be "too close" to 1♥?

Most would not have a gap between 1♥ and 2♥ in my experience. The range for a 2♥ opening would usually be immediately below the range for 1♥ on a six-card suit.

[PhilG007]

Tramticket, on 2019-October-04, 06:15, said:

Can a 2♥ bid be "too close" to 1♥?

Most would not have a gap between 1♥ and 2♥ in my experience. The range for a 2♥ opening would usually be immediately below the range for 1♥ on a six-card suit.

2♥ is more pre-emptive than 1♥ But then again 1♥ promises more than 2♥ The former is limited whereas
the latter is not.

[Vampyr]

Tramticket, on 2019-October-04, 06:15, said:

Can a 2♥ bid be "too close" to 1♥?

Most would not have a gap between 1♥ and 2♥ in my experience. The range for a 2♥ opening would usually be immediately below the range for 1♥ on a six-card suit.

There can be a gap, not in HCP but in suit quality.

[miamijd]

I should also add that it depends on your system, too. You can be more free-wheeling with weak 2s if you play a big club, because then your 1H openers can be a bit weaker (you are capped).

[pescetom]

Tramticket, on 2019-October-04, 06:15, said:

Can a 2♥ bid be "too close" to 1♥?

Most would not have a gap between 1♥ and 2♥ in my experience. The range for a 2♥ opening would usually be immediately below the range for 1♥ on a six-card suit.

"Too close" not in the sense that it falls into some mysterious gap, but that it is too close to one extreme to represent an ideal (as the post I quoted maintained).

[Vampyr]

PhilG007, on 2019-October-03, 14:27, said:

2♥ on that hand would be OK in 3rd or 4th seat. As dealer or in 2nd to speak its a shade too weak.
Exchange the Q♣ for the K♣ and I would open 2♥ as dealer or 2nd seat.

You mean the suit is too weak in first or second? I agree, and also agree that in third seat anything goes, but why would you open anything at all in 4th?

[blackshoe]

Points, schmoints.