[ahydra]

What gets me is East not overcalling 1S.

ahydra

[thawp66]

PhilG007, on 2018-September-16, 07:29, said:

What was the purpose of South's 2♠ bid? Was it intended as 4th suit forcing with a view to playing in NTs? If so,it was a ridiculous bid.
in the face of a total misfit. Hands that don't fit in a suit very often don't fit in No Trumps either(!) After the 2♣ bid South should simply jump to 4♥
direct sending the message "I insist we play the hand in MY suit partner. Please pass"

Should N pass with
!S void
!H Axx
!D AKTxxx
!C Axxx

[dokoko]

1♦(unbalanced) - 1♥;
1NT(4+♣) - 3♥(setting trump);
3♠(1st/2nd round control) - 4♣(dito, serious slam interest);
4♦(Last Train) - 4♥(I'm done);
pass

From North's point of view, there is a trump loser and a probable club loser. South would not bid 4♥ with solid trumps or a second black control.

[dokoko]

Those who bid 1♦-1♥;2♣-4♥ how would you reach slam with North holding ♠Axx ♥- ♦Axxxxx ♣AQxx (yes may go down on clubs 52) or ♠Axx ♥- ♦AKxxxx ♣Axxx. For his 4♥-bid South may hold ♥KJ10xxxx.

[dokoko]

msjennifer, on 2018-September-16, 09:45, said:

Sir,we shall bid 1D-4H showing an 8 carder suit headed by the Ace and two of the four top honors.Since opener has only three QUICK tricks he will PASS.YES and someday we might lose when partner produces Axxx-K-QJxxx-AQx

I haven't 2 of 4, I have 3 of 4 (and 5 of 6).

[dokoko]

pescetom, on 2018-September-16, 06:25, said:

Here's the full hand.

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Not particularly proud of our bidding. We're a fairly ethical pair, but there probably was some UI flying around with such attractive hands in misfit. Once partner bid 3♥ showing mild slam interest I couldn't resist and asked keycards (too late to fix suit and control-bid effectively), so we stopped on the edge of the precipice. With hindsight, 1♦ 4♥ pass would not be a mistake.

If you thought partner's suit is good enough to play opposite a void (as you obviously did), then why not bid 3♠ over 3♥ (cuebid agreeing hearts).

[pescetom]

dokoko, on 2018-September-18, 04:45, said:

If you thought partner's suit is good enough to play opposite a void (as you obviously did), then why not bid 3♠ over 3♥ (cuebid agreeing hearts).

Because we play that one cannot cuebid until trumps having been explicitly agreed or imposed.
Less flexible but very solid.

[pescetom]

ahydra, on 2018-September-17, 15:19, said:

What gets me is East not overcalling 1S.

Yes, she is a timid soul.
Not that it would change much in this case.

[kuhchung]

pescetom, on 2018-September-18, 06:15, said:

Because we play that one cannot cuebid until trumps having been explicitly agreed or imposed.
Less flexible but very solid.

You will avoid many disasters