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This double should be penalty instead of takeout

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Posted 2017-February-16, 11:37


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Posted 2017-February-16, 14:54

As far as I know, the word "penalty" does not occur in any GIB description. I find it curious that GIB uses the concept of "takeout" quite often but "penalty" is outside its vocabulary.
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Posted 2017-February-16, 15:01

 iandayre, on 2017-February-16, 14:54, said:

As far as I know, the word "penalty" does not occur in any GIB description. I find it curious that GIB uses the concept of "takeout" quite often but "penalty" is outside its vocabulary.

Some doubles are defined as "biddable spades" (if, say, it is a spade bid it doubles). That is probably the Giberish translation of the English word "Penalty".
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Posted 2017-February-16, 19:27

What an idiotic double even if penalty. south has 3 tricks and speculation.
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Posted 2017-February-16, 21:45

 iandayre, on 2017-February-16, 14:54, said:

As far as I know, the word "penalty" does not occur in any GIB description. I find it curious that GIB uses the concept of "takeout" quite often but "penalty" is outside its vocabulary.

If I recall correctly, in a Michael's sequence, 1♦ (2♦) x is described as "Penalty double, 10+ HCP". I'm never quite what it means, though.

Overall, I agree, this and many many other doubles should be penalty when GIB thinks they're takeout. I'm not sure what the exact rule should be, but there should be a very limited number of sequences where a double of a game bid or higher is takeout.
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