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Matchpoints 3rd in favourable opps aren't great but lefty is considerably better than righty
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Posted 2015-August-03, 09:55
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2015-August-03, 10:18
Call me primitive but I pass.
-5 card spades on the side is way too much for me to open 3♣.
-1♣ opening is not even a lead director.
-My hand perfectly fits in the definition of a pass.
-5 card spades on the side is way too much for me to open 3♣.
-1♣ opening is not even a lead director.
-My hand perfectly fits in the definition of a pass.
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Posted 2015-August-03, 11:31
I will bid 3♣, giving up on 4♠, since I can't see any sensible way to get there.
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Posted 2015-August-03, 12:01
3c
Not much defense p is a passed hand and aiming for spades is a super small tiny window to worry about. It is all too easy for the opps to have game if not slam and at the very worst 3c is a decent lead director. Passing under these conditions is a head-in-the-sand philosophy:)
Not much defense p is a passed hand and aiming for spades is a super small tiny window to worry about. It is all too easy for the opps to have game if not slam and at the very worst 3c is a decent lead director. Passing under these conditions is a head-in-the-sand philosophy:)
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Posted 2015-August-03, 13:05
I open 3♣.
In third seat after 2 passes, my goal is to disrupt the opps as much as possible without sticking my neck out too far. 3♣ accomplishes this.
It is not my goal to find the best possible contract, but rather the best contract possible. Could we have a spade fit? Sure we could. But it is impractical to look for it.
In third seat after 2 passes, my goal is to disrupt the opps as much as possible without sticking my neck out too far. 3♣ accomplishes this.
It is not my goal to find the best possible contract, but rather the best contract possible. Could we have a spade fit? Sure we could. But it is impractical to look for it.
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Posted 2015-August-03, 14:51
I'm now thinking that given all the people voting for 3♣, I should probably have said 4♣. I have a reputation to uphold 
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Posted 2015-August-03, 15:43
I'm not supposed to have a side 4c-M when opening 3m but I'm in 3rd and 5432 are so tiny vs my AQJT876. Oops I messed up again with those black pips!
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Posted 2015-August-03, 18:16
eagles123, on 2015-August-03, 09:55, said:
Matchpoints 3rd in favourable opps aren't great but lefty is considerably better than righty. two passes to you
♠ 7 5 4 3 2 ♥ 5 ♦ 6 ♣ A Q J T 8 6
you play 2/1 3 weak 2
♠ 7 5 4 3 2 ♥ 5 ♦ 6 ♣ A Q J T 8 6
you play 2/1 3 weak 2
- 3♣ = PRE. ♠ holding no bar to 3rd-seat pre-empt.
- Pass = NAT. Gives opponents a lot of exploration room.
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Posted 2015-August-03, 19:00
3C, with 1C also considered. 1C leaves options, and a HCP misdirection may be as effective as a preempt.
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Posted 2015-August-03, 20:21
An ex-partner long ago tried 4S with this sort of a hand (mixing up a suggestion about what to do with a good 6 card major and weak 5 card minor). Easy +420.
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Posted 2015-August-03, 23:28
Spades are too weak to show, as lead in this suit is not what we'd like to got. I understand 3c, but if the opponents have unbalanced hands, it won't stop them from finding the game in hearts. That's why I would bid 1h.
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Posted 2015-August-04, 03:09
1S. Why should a 3rd seat opening be lead directing? 3C is a really silly opening with 5S as well. Second choice is pass, but I like to get in here.
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Posted 2015-August-04, 08:20
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Posted 2015-August-04, 08:29
PhantomSac, on 2015-August-04, 08:20, said:
4C
We knew that vote. Unfortunately, I am systemically barred from 4♣, so would have to settle for 3.
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Posted 2015-August-04, 08:39
PhantomSac, on 2015-August-04, 08:20, said:
4C
looks like you're going to have to change your vote to 5c now, Jinksy
btw this hand was from a couple of weeks ago I opened 3c fwiw I was just thinking about it yesterday for some reason
full hand for those interested:
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Posted 2015-August-04, 10:08
MrAce, on 2015-August-03, 10:18, said:
Call me primitive but I pass.
-5 card spades on the side is way too much for me to open 3♣.
-1♣ opening is not even a lead director.
-My hand perfectly fits in the definition of a pass.
-5 card spades on the side is way too much for me to open 3♣.
-1♣ opening is not even a lead director.
-My hand perfectly fits in the definition of a pass.
Really? I have an agreement with partner that a 3rd seat 1♣ opener that is revealed to be weak later in the auction is most often a strong lead indicator, otherwise why bother. You haven't impeded their bidding and with marginal standard openings and poor clubs we can choose a decent 4-card major. Works out most of the time.
I can't stand to pass at these colors or to miss spades at mp's so 1♣ for me.
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Posted 2015-August-04, 11:23
eagles123, on 2015-August-04, 08:39, said:
looks like you're going to have to change your vote to 5c now, Jinksy
I might make an exception to my 'bid one more than everyone else' rule for an aggressive Bermuda Bowl finalist
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Posted 2015-August-04, 12:45
When it comes to 3rd seat preempts, the only rule is 'there are no rules.'. You can pretty much do whatever you want, so a theoretically questionable bid becomes desirable if you think it rates to grant a tactical advantage.
The example hand is certainly an odd one. In all honesty I think I would try 4♣ (IMPs or matchpoints). Counting losers this is 'ballpark'. I'll have another guess to make if the opponents get to 4♥ (how they get there affects my choice) but for now I'll try to buy (read: 'steal') it.
The example hand is certainly an odd one. In all honesty I think I would try 4♣ (IMPs or matchpoints). Counting losers this is 'ballpark'. I'll have another guess to make if the opponents get to 4♥ (how they get there affects my choice) but for now I'll try to buy (read: 'steal') it.
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