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JEC Feb15 Board 4

Poll: JEC Feb15 Board 4 (8 member(s) have cast votes)

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#1 User is offline   mgoetze 

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Posted 2015-February-14, 19:38



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Posted 2015-February-14, 20:39

You might want to share whether you are playing Lebensohl...
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Posted 2015-February-14, 20:43

In any case, this is not a situation where you should bid a shorter major instead of a longer minor. We know that partner is likely to be short in clubs. He will often overcall a 5-card major instead of doubling, but he will rarely overcall 3 with a 5-card suit instead of doubling. I think his average club length is higher than his average heart length (unless he had a double-and-bid hand). This is not a case where we have to cater to 4=4=3=2.
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Posted 2015-February-14, 21:01

 cherdano, on 2015-February-14, 20:39, said:

You might want to share whether you are playing Lebensohl...

Well, we didn't explicitly agree Lebensohl. That's all I know.
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Posted 2015-February-14, 21:33

voted 2n assuming leb w/o leb would go with 3c

If p cannot show extra values we should be more than high enough
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Posted 2015-February-15, 04:47

I prefer 2 with the hand, because partner will go out of his way to bid double with both major hands, atleast that is what i think. In that case he should be more likely to have longer hearts then spades. Although dont know if partner expects 3 or 4 with you.
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Posted 2015-February-16, 20:47

This didn't go so well...



Do you think double-then-2 would have shown South's hand, or something else?

At the other table, Derric opened 3 (gutsy ;) ) and JEC did not bother doubling, going straight to 4.
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Posted 2015-February-17, 15:50

JEC followed rule that 6-4 is single suited. He keeps bidding simple but effective. That makes it easy for partner if knowing about a few unusual bidding habits.

But there is one option also. No lebensohl to weak 2 diamond even if playing it to weak 2M. That is very much playable concept.
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Posted 2015-February-17, 15:56

Agree with Phil's bidding. Over 2, you don't want to insist on spades since you have the space. And once partner bids 2, you have found a fit - no reason to make things more complicated. You have a very good slam opposite a hand with the major suit kings.
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