[nige1]

pran, on 2014-April-28, 15:15, said:

Your player who claimed that the stop card was only maintained for 5.5 seconds - "I know because in this case, I *had* nothing to think about, and was 'Happy Birthday'-ing my way to 10 Seconds" would be ruled against by most Directors because if he had time to do extraneous activities instead of planning his call then the stop period as controlled by his RHO must certainly have been sufficient. And if he had obeyed regulations and called at the end of that stop period then nobody would have had any claim on UI being passed by that player.

Pran's interpretation is surprising because, when you call prematurely, you

• Advertise the fact that you have nothing to think about.
• Deprive other players of thinking-time, perhaps forcing them to create UI.

[pran]

nige1, on 2014-April-28, 21:15, said:

Pran's interpretation is surprising because, when you call prematurely, you

• Advertise the fact that you have nothing to think about.
• Deprive other players of thinking-time, perhaps forcing them to create UI.

Don't overlook that it is RHO who (primarily) controls when the call is expected. So a call at the time RHO ends the STOP period is not a premature call.

[pran]

mycroft, on 2014-April-28, 17:58, said:

Ah, but I *always* pause for 10ish seconds, whether or not I have a problem.
[...]

We do indeed experience players who invariably spends about 10 seconds on each call. They usually end up being "fined" PP for being late in each round.

[mycroft]

Sven, that calibre of misreading moves you from "misunderstood" to "troll". Thanks for making it clear.

If you can't see that whether or not it's a good or even a better idea than the alternative, allowing my opponent to decide how long I "should need to think" over a jump call has its problems, there's nothing more I can do to help you.

On topic: yes, barmar, "the perfect is the enemy of the good"; it's just that many who uphold the european style of STOP card regulation as better imply strongly that it *is* perfect, and instead of "well, yes, but it's better than the alternative, and we don't get many who do that accidentally or otherwise, and we do crack down on those who do", we get the kind of "there's no problem here" responses I'm seeing in this thread.