1,3 or 4 hearts?
#1
Posted 2014-March-01, 06:55
Axx AQ9xxxx xx x.
bidding is
p 1♣ ?
I´m interested in both MP and IMP scoring, and have no clear idea on what to bid with this hand. 4♥ might be too much since we have 2 aces, reasonably 2 def tricks, but i want to show my heart length, and 3♥ seems like an underbid. if i bid 1♥ i didn´t do any preempt damage so they´re free to find any fit they want. I´m leaning towards 3♥ for now but would like to hear some opinions.
Thanks
#2
Posted 2014-March-01, 07:13
#3
Posted 2014-March-01, 07:21
In most cases I'm not prepared to guess at the contract at this point, and that is essentially what you are doing when preempting. So just overcall and see what happens next.
#4
Posted 2014-March-01, 12:08
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#5
Posted 2014-March-01, 17:00
awm, on 2014-March-01, 12:08, said:
I took it for real when you said a couple of years ago that your data greatly supported preempting to 4M was very good with 10-15 HCP hands or so.
Maybe I am being unlucky, but let me tell you tha tit is working extremely badly for me on Match points, weak fields.
#6
Posted 2014-March-01, 18:24
gogo2711, on 2014-March-01, 06:55, said:
♠ A x x ♥ A Q 9 x x x x ♦ x x ♣ x.
p 1♣ ?
I´m interested in both MP and IMP scoring, and have no clear idea on what to bid with this hand. 4♥ might be too much since we have 2 aces, reasonably 2 def tricks, but i want to show my heart length, and 3♥ seems like an underbid. if i bid 1♥ i didn´t do any preempt damage so they´re free to find any fit they want. I´m leaning towards 3♥ for now but would like to hear some opinions.
#7
Posted 2014-March-01, 18:32
If I were opening the hand, I would follow awm's advise and open 4♥. As an overcall, I think 3♥ might work out better here. However, I think I will make the bid most other tables will make - 1♥.
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
-Alfred Sheinwold
#8
Posted 2014-March-01, 22:24
Assuming 15-17, if I had better hearts, I would consider 4♥, but with a ragged suit for a 4 level preempt with 2 aces for defense, I'll bid 1♥. 3♥ isn't a possibility for me.
With 2 aces, I'm not very worried about a club game and can outbid partials in hearts, and looking at 3 spades to the ace and a singleton, it looks like the possibility of a good defensive hand against a potential spade contract.
#9
Posted 2014-March-01, 23:46
At this vul, 4 looks right.
#10
Posted 2014-March-02, 05:21
Fluffy, on 2014-March-01, 17:00, said:
Maybe I am being unlucky, but let me tell you tha tit is working extremely badly for me on Match points, weak fields.
I am also a big believer of what AWM said about 4M openings back then. But why would you do anything other than textbook bids in a weak field and MP anyway ? Opening 4M preempts are some sort of gamble with very good odds, but why would you gamble even with good odds in a game where you are the top dog and you are likely to score very well in most of the boards w/o doing anything fancy ?
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#11
Posted 2014-March-03, 10:34
4♥ for me is clear. If partner had not passed then the decision would be harder (and probably then only 1♥).