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#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2013-January-03, 00:13

IMPs short matches r /W

AKJxxx ATxx x Ax

(2D) x (p) 2H
P ?
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Posted 2013-January-03, 03:30

How do I cater for partner's xxx xxx xxxx Kxx? In a better world, 3 followed by 4 would be a choice-of-games cue-bid, but everyone plays that as a slam-try.

The best I can think of is to try 3 and see what he does. If he happens to bid 3 I'll raise that. If he bids anything else I'll have to bid 4, and we could still be in a stupid contract.
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Posted 2013-January-03, 04:16

View Postgnasher, on 2013-January-03, 03:30, said:

How do I cater for partner's xxx xxx xxxx Kxx? In a better world, 3 followed by 4 would be a choice-of-games cue-bid, but everyone plays that as a slam-try.

The best I can think of is to try 3 and see what he does. If he happens to bid 3 I'll raise that. If he bids anything else I'll have to bid 4, and we could still be in a stupid contract.

I think it is a mistake to bid 2 with this distribution.
When responding to takeout double on a three card suit, consider what you will do if takeout doubler will cuebid next.
I for my part I do not rebid three card suits in response to a cuebid if there is any alternative. I might pass with xx xxx xxxxx Kxx
I prefer to respond with 2 followed by 3 with your distribution
I do not see how 3 followed by 4 even as a choice-of-games cue-bid would help.
Would you expect responder to start bidding spades at the 4-level?

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Posted 2013-January-03, 04:45

View Postrhm, on 2013-January-03, 04:16, said:

I do not see how 3 followed by 4 even as a choice-of-games cue-bid would help.
Would you expect responder to start bidding spades at the 4-level?

Yes. If it offers a choice of games, presumably spades is one of the choices.

With three hearts and a five-card black suit, the doubler would cue-bid and then bid his suit. Hence the choice-of-games cue-bid would show a more heart-orientated hand, such as the one in the original post.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2013-January-03, 04:48

... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-January-03, 05:07

I think that Rainer has it right: With 3/3 you should bid 2 spades, not 2 heart, partner will be well placed over your 3 response to 3 with 46 in the majors.
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Posted 2013-January-03, 06:44

When I saw this hand I also inmediatelly started to think about 3343.

For me 2 is forcing so I would try that, but I supose that is not mainstream. Now I think of it, I bid 3 the round before.
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Posted 2013-January-03, 10:33

I will cuebid 3,and then plan to cuebid 4 for slam try.
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Posted 2013-January-03, 10:39

Another 6-4

Curiously enough, I played last night with this same partner when this hand came up.
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Posted 2013-January-03, 19:02

View PostFluffy, on 2013-January-03, 06:44, said:

Now I think of it, I bid 3 the round before.

Yep. I bet next time Phil's partner will think of it in time to do it.
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