[JLOGIC]

http://www.bridgebas...opener-problem/

was the one I was thinking of.

[JLOGIC]

lol reading those threads:

2008 JLALL:

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I slightly prefer 1N over 2C with this hand type FWIW but they are very close to me...I think 2D really sucks but that's me.

2009 JLALL:

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It's all moot because I love 1N!

Oh how things changed in a year...

Also of note, 2008 jlall agreed with 2012 jlall with:

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When I first started playing expert standard was 2C, now it has moved to 1N.

[gnasher]

MickyB, on 2012-March-13, 17:28, said:

How about this?

If we routinely rebid 2S on 2254, then 2NT would promise three hearts [1444, 1435, 1345 and 0454 being the relevant shapes - although one of these should probably still bid 3H over 2H]. Now, responder can bid

1D:1S
2C:2H
2N:3H

as natural 5-4. With 5-5, he can insist on playing in hearts.

Yes, that seems to work. I think you should use 3♥ to show 1354 without a heart stop, because that's the one where wrongsiding is the biggest problem.

If it means you have to bid 2♠ on hands like xx AQ Kxxxx QJxx, you're losing a bit if accuracy there. Maybe you could bid 3NT on those hands?

[mike777]

gnasher, on 2012-March-14, 03:28, said:

Yes, that seems to work. I think you should use 3♥ to show 1354 without a heart stop, because that's the one where wrongsiding is the biggest problem.

If it means you have to bid 2♠ on hands like xx AQ Kxxxx QJxx, you're losing a bit if accuracy there. Maybe you could bid 3NT on those hands?

I rebid 1nt......pard will think I am 11-13,,,,,, or less...so be it....


1d=1s
1nt

2-2-5-4


again you need to define 11-13 bal with minors fast......
slow the auction down.

[FrancesHinden]

MickyB, on 2012-March-12, 23:07, said:

Playing the trendy style where 1453 rebids 2C, what do you rebid over 4SF? I'm used to 3H showing 1444/0454 but bidding that on 1453 too can't be good. Maybe 2S as various with a stiff spade and 2NT as 2254?

I've never played this style, but assuming you are playing fairly normal-type methods, partner's 4SF can include game forcing hands with club 'support' and/or game forcing diamond raises. So you don't want to bid 3H very often, particularly if it may or may not have four clubs on the side and poor partner still doesn't know if he's looking for a club slam or not.

I would stick with what I play here anyway, given that although I can't have only 3 clubs I could be 1444:

2S = doubleton, or possibly 1-3 in the majors with 3 low hearts, usually a minimum or super extras
2NT = natural, usually 1-3 in the majors, could be 1-4. Might be 0-3 or 0-4 but you'd rather not have that.
3C = 5 clubs
3D = 6-4 minors
3H = significant extra values (about 16+), nothing descriptive to bid (usually 1354 or 2254 with no heart stop).

If partner has both majors he bids 3H over 2NT to find the fit.

[aguahombre]

If I remember correctly, the 2C rebid was transformed from a punt to a systemic tool by Kokish some time ago.