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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2012-February-03, 18:54



MPs nobody vul, south will open 1♦. can you find this slam?
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Posted 2012-February-03, 18:57

no

(1♦) X (P) 1♠ (P) 2♦ (P) 2♠ west will drag east kicking and screaming to perhaps 5♠
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Posted 2012-February-03, 19:38

Ummm... what slam??
There is a big difference between a good decision and a good result. Let's keep our posts about good decisions rather than "gotcha" results!
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Posted 2012-February-03, 19:39

Some people play 3♠ over the double showing 6♠ and preemptive hand ( at least i do), so if E bids 3♠ then maybe West can go idk.
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Posted 2012-February-03, 20:03

 HighLow21, on 2012-February-03, 19:38, said:

Ummm... what slam??


6♠ east
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Posted 2012-February-03, 20:24

 inquiry, on 2012-February-03, 20:03, said:

6♠ east

You mean the 6♠ slam that fails on a diamond lead?
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Posted 2012-February-03, 20:25

Ah I take it back ;-)
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Posted 2012-February-03, 20:26

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Posted 2012-February-03, 20:39

Here is another hand, very similar, where I got to the par result on 20 HCP after a WJO. The difference is, when I bid 6♠, I thought the overcall had been 1♥, not 2♥, and my partner, I thought, was showing a WJS in competition. I figured, weak + long = good. Whoops. (This was under my previous login.)

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The hand and bidding:


Trumps split 1-1 so 12 tricks is unstoppable. Note how helpful 3♥ was to me, and how harmful it was to N.

Not sure how this translates to a bidding sequence over a t/o DBL by partner, but it's an example where opener has controls in every suit and wants much more desperately to know how many trumps you have, rather than how many HCP you have.
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Posted 2012-February-04, 05:47

(1 ♦) X (pass) 1 ♠
(pass) 4♠ (pass) 5♣
(pass) 6 ♠

I am sure about the bidding till 4 ♠. My partner wants to play controlbids at the 5. level still as Italian style- I hate that, but it had worked well here.
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Posted 2012-February-04, 06:46

I am pretty confident I would not bid this one.
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Posted 2012-February-04, 06:57

polling expert I have gathered a gadget, Branco-Brenner play that jump cue after double (3♦) its a slam try in partner's suit with at least 4 card support. Not that it gets you anywhere here for sure, but maybe gets you closer.
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Posted 2012-February-04, 07:59

No. Everything is working. Stiff club, diamond queen for a stopper, and the heart jack. Just don't worry about it imo.
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Posted 2012-February-04, 13:11

 jillybean, on 2012-February-03, 20:26, said:

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FYI i upvoted your choice of deleting it :)
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Posted 2012-February-04, 13:46

 JLOGIC, on 2012-February-04, 07:59, said:

No. Everything is working. Stiff club, diamond queen for a stopper, and the heart jack.


...and it's still not cold.
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Posted 2012-February-04, 14:05

 Zelandakh, on 2012-February-04, 06:46, said:

I am pretty confident I would not bid this one.

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Posted 2012-February-13, 14:01

 Fluffy, on 2012-February-03, 18:54, said:



MPs nobody vul, south will open 1♦. can you find this slam?

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Posted 2012-February-14, 04:58

(1D)

dbl 1S
2D 3S
4S

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Posted 2012-February-14, 05:19

I'm very inclined to bid 2♠ over the double with the E hand rather than 1♠. Why ? well offensively, if partner has anything other than a GOSH then it's worth it (and may be worth it opposite a GOSH in ♥). Give pard as little as A10xx, A10xx, x, Axxx and game isn't bad.

If you bid 2♠, the only thing that might stop you would be whether W asked for Q♠ and whether E showed it.
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Posted 2012-February-14, 22:37

 MickyB, on 2012-February-04, 13:46, said:

...and it's still not cold.

Just needs South to have ♦K for their opening bid (or not lead them) and ♠ not 3-0 offside. Not frigid, but pretty chilly :ph34r:
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