How would you play this hand to optimise your chances?
6NT
#1
Posted 2011-December-17, 06:47
How would you play this hand to optimise your chances?
#2
Posted 2011-December-17, 07:17
Zelandakh, on 2011-December-17, 06:47, said:
How would you play this hand to optimise your chances?
Have you asked for aces along the way?
London UK
#3
Posted 2011-December-17, 07:33
gordontd, on 2011-December-17, 07:17, said:
This is an awkward question to answer. North bid 4NT (quantitative) and South responded 5H (2 aces). This is the main reason I did not give the auction.
#4
Posted 2011-December-17, 07:36
Zelandakh, on 2011-December-17, 07:33, said:
So if you took a losing finesse early, they would know that they have an ace to cash too.
London UK
#5
Posted 2011-December-17, 08:11
#7
Posted 2011-December-17, 10:27
Fluffy, on 2011-December-17, 08:11, said:
Even if the ♥ play wins, that would only make the 11th trick.
A 2nd ♥ trick would be hard to get.
So, you need the ♣ finesse to work in any case.
When that wins, you could get another ♣ trick ( 12th ) if the suit splits 3-3.... w/o even touching ♥.
If you handle the entries properly, and the ♣ don't split, THEN lead the ♥10 from dummy:
♠ K
♣ to J ( wins )
♦ K
♣ A
♣ to K ( if they split your troubles are over )
... if they don't split, then run the next five ♦, pitching two ♠ and three ♥;
then lead ♥ 10 ( you need the opp with the ♥ A to be out of ♣ ).
........ if East plays a low ♥, you will have to play West for the ♥A and not the Q.
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
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#8
Posted 2011-December-17, 10:34
Fluffy, on 2011-December-17, 08:11, said:
If it wins you've still only got 11 tricks, and if it loses (and they don't play a heart back) you're short of two tricks. It's hard to see how you can make the contract without finding the CQ onside, so I'm inclined to think you should start with the club finesse, and then judge whether to play for clubs 3-3 or generate a heart trick. Another problem is that the entry position requires you to see if the clubs break before playing on hearts, and if they don't break then your heart play is determined for you - to keep the hand with the fourth club off lead.
London UK
#9
Posted 2011-December-18, 06:49
#10
Posted 2011-December-19, 13:46
Zelandakh, on 2011-December-18, 06:49, said:
I'm ready for the spoilers ...
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
#11
Posted 2011-December-19, 14:02
If the club Queen drops under the Ace, the clubs seem like 4-2. In that event, you will probably need RHO with the heart Ace. If hearts are 2-4, instead, then you need LHO with the heart Ace and not the Queen.
One funny possibility is that the opening spade lead was stiff or doubleton 6-5, in which case you might simply get another trick in spades if RHO has the fourth club, the heart Ace, and thus a squeeze on the run of diamonds. ♠QJ1098 ♥A? ♦? ♣Qxxx. I suppose that LHO could have the heart Ace, four clubs without the Queen, and five spades, as well.
-P.J. Painter.
#12
Posted 2011-December-19, 15:47
#13
Posted 2011-December-20, 08:42
JLOGIC, on 2011-December-19, 15:47, said:
That is a good question. In isolation, the clubs suit is 2:1 more likely to come in with a finesse. But this gives up on A of H with RHO which cuts the loss of losing to QT9 with RHO in half. How often would LHO lead the A of H's at trick one if he had it? Depends on the bidding which was not given.
#14
Posted 2011-December-20, 12:11
#15
Posted 2011-December-20, 14:46
#16
Posted 2011-December-20, 14:57
London UK
#17
Posted 2011-December-21, 06:57
It seems this line is too double dummy to find at the table. I wondered about it and thought if noone here found it then it is clearly not the correct option. Still, an interesting hand I hope you agree. The deal in full...