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THE MAGIC CLUB & THE SPARKLING DIAMOND Does anybody play this?

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Posted 2011-November-27, 08:54

I found this article on BridgeGuys website http://www.bridgeguy...f/MAGICCLUB.pdf

Theoretically these gadgets all sound nice. This one doesn't say how the partnership must cope with opposition interference. This forum has had a number of threads on a Big Club system / Big Diamond System versus Better Minor opening bids.

Are there any regular contributors to these forums who have at some point played THE MAGIC CLUB & THE SPARKLING DIAMOND? What are your thoughts on this approach?
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Posted 2011-November-27, 09:31

I haven't played it, but as you suggested, it seems unplayable when you get interference. Not to mention that apparently you can't play in 2M often.
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Posted 2011-November-27, 09:56

i like the formulation "4441 with at least one 4-card major".
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Posted 2011-November-27, 11:57

Does the MAF system not use something like this? I have also heard of something quite similar being used as a learning system. It seems to me basically sound but not optimal.
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Posted 2011-November-28, 00:11

Never before had I heard of the MAF System until Zelandakh,s post above. So I did a Google search and looked it up. This is what I found http://web.inter.nl.....A.F/index0.htm

MAF stands for Majors Always First. So we have yet another system fighting for a place in the sun. What makes one system better than another? Personally I believe it has more to do with the quality of the player playing any particular system than what it has to do with the system itself.

Thanks Zel
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Posted 2011-November-28, 02:40

Is it a new trend to use capital letters for topic titles?
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Posted 2011-November-28, 12:17

 gwnn, on 2011-November-27, 09:56, said:

i like the formulation "4441 with at least one 4-card major".

Amusing, but it's fair eneough, as it emphasises that a 1C open (unless long) must contaim a 4 card major. It surely is "{4441}" (ie any suits) rather than "4441" (shdc).
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Posted 2011-November-28, 12:29

Vaguely reminds of a system called the American Forcing Minor by Lutz and Fink
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Posted 2011-November-28, 20:11

 hrothgar, on 2011-November-28, 12:29, said:

Vaguely reminds of a system called the American Forcing Minor by Lutz and Fink

Doesn't look much like that system.

In book form it is like Oakley's Diamond Major, but with 1 the major hand. I've played against systems where the 1 opening promises a four card major. They usually first implemented a Montreal Relay 1-1 response, and then liked the sequences so much that they end up always opening 1 with a major. The competitive sequences get fun.
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