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#1 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2011-November-26, 05:49

Perhaps someone should point out to GIB that 4NT in competition is only then natural when we have bid 3NT to play before.
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4NT was explained by GIB as 15+ with 4+♦. He passed and GIB opponent smartly didn't double as he took 4NT five off with 5♣X only down 1. It was still over average as 4♠ was making, but still... Not finding a ruff lets 5♣ through. I guess this applies in many situations.
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Posted 2011-November-26, 06:27

Yeah, 4NT as artificial should really be standard. The more frustrating one is bidding 4NT after bidding an unusual 2NT, gib thinks that is to play as well.
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Posted 2011-November-26, 06:42

I don't think it plays unusual 4NT over a 3M pre-empt either.
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Posted 2011-November-26, 11:25


Actually, 4♦ is explained as 4+D; 15+ total points. It appears to me that GIB had no idea what 4N was, and therefore simply restated the same description for 4N.
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Posted 2011-November-26, 11:35

View PostGerben42, on 2011-November-26, 05:49, said:

He passed and GIB opponent smartly didn't double as he took 4NT five off with 5♣X only down 1.

I haven't analyzed the play at those tables, but all three N/S pairs who played 5♣x were -300, worse than your -250. Traveller: http://online.bridge...ername=Gerben42
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Posted 2011-November-26, 11:38

View PostGerben42, on 2011-November-26, 05:49, said:

Not finding a ruff lets 5♣ through.
You don't think EW will always manage to get 2 aces and the off-side ♣Q?
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