[gszes]

1D

yes indeed I wholeheartedly agree that our clubs are MUCH
better than our diamonds. Preparation for rebids is also
very important as well as giving p as much info as possible
so they can participate better. Opening 1d and rebidding 2c
gives p much more information about our hand than 1c 2c does.

p holding as little as say xxxx xxx AQ xxxx has good reason to
feel good about their hand (ie bid 3c) after 1d 2c rebid and
little reason to like their hand (ie pass) after 1c 2c rebid.

If the bidding goes say 1d 1s 2c 2d (noint) we can then bid 3c
which should help clarify our 56 status (with 55 64 or 65 we would
not bother with 3c we would merely bid 3d if we felt it was wise).

I would not always open 1d vs 1c with this distribution. My personal
preference is the dia suit has to be headed by at least the Q and
have at least 50% of the power located in the club suit or be headed
by the K or better.

The hands also have to be weak enough to not qualify for a reverse.

[the hog]

han, on 2011-July-06, 07:47, said:

Hog, if you cannot see why you want to be in 6D instead of 6C holding

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then it is no surprise that you cannot see why you want to open a AJ10xxx suit instead of K9xxx. From you I would expect such claims, but not from Mtvesuvius who not only has a fairly open mind but also has an exceptional talent for bridge.

Adam, if you think rebid issues are more important than bidding your longer and stronger suit first, fair enough, I disagree but we can argue about that. But let's try not to fool ourselves with arguments that are clearly false.

Han, you are either obtuse or deliberately being absurd. Please quote where I posted that I would "rather" be in 6C than 6D. In the post to which you are referring the op said, "Do you want to be in this slam". My comment was, if I recall, "Yes, I am happy enough to be in it." Please do a course in remedial reading before you post rubbish.

[Phil]

1♣.

Over a 4♥ preempt to my left I plan to bid 4♠ followed by redouble to show five of a higher ranking suit

[mtvesuvius]

Phil, on 2011-July-06, 23:16, said:

Over a 4♥ preempt to my left I plan to bid 4♠ followed by redouble to show five of a higher ranking suit

[han]

the hog, on 2011-July-06, 21:11, said:

Han, you are either obtuse or deliberately being absurd. Please quote where I posted that I would "rather" be in 6C than 6D. In the post to which you are referring the op said, "Do you want to be in this slam". My comment was, if I recall, "Yes, I am happy enough to be in it." Please do a course in remedial reading before you post rubbish.

Your recollection of your own words is perfect Hoggie. It's a strange comment though, given that (a) 6C on the expected heart lead is about 45%, and (b) 6D is considerably better. Even though your play analysis in that thread was completely off, I thought the resemblance was remarkable. In the other thread declarer bid clubs and diamonds as if they were equal while diamonds were 2 cards longer and much stronger. Not having learned anything from that, you distort your suit length in this thread from your very first bid! Perhaps not so surprising given that you were happy enough to be in 6C.

[the hog]

han, on 2011-July-07, 03:14, said:

Your recollection of your own words is perfect Hoggie. It's a strange comment though, given that (a) 6C on the expected heart lead is about 45%, and (b) 6D is considerably better. Even though your play analysis in that thread was completely off, I thought the resemblance was remarkable. In the other thread declarer bid clubs and diamonds as if they were equal while diamonds were 2 cards longer and much stronger. Not having learned anything from that, you distort your suit length in this thread from your very first bid! Perhaps not so surprising given that you were happy enough to be in 6C.

Not that there is much point in this, but at least I will be able to show a 5-5. You won't, unless you decide to reverse on this hand. The arguments about bidding 4NT to show a 2 suiter with longer Cs only applies IF the hand belongs to the opps. Good luck if pd has a game going hand and the bidding proceeds something similar to
1C 1S
2C 2H (if you play this as forcing eg)
3D does Not show 5 now! In fact many would not even treat this as natural. You have, (maybe), shown 5-4. By opening 1D I would have shown 5-5. Are you going to whisper "Pd I have 5 in this suit or perhaps hold up five fingers?" Are you going to bid 4D over 3NT perchance?
Good luck in getting to 6D if pd has something like
♠Axxxx
♥Qxxx
♦AQJ
♣Q

I am not saying I WOULD, but YOU definitely would not.