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Posted 2011-April-08, 03:06

They say there is no preempt over a preempt. But maybe jumping to game should be an exception. For example, over a weak two in hearts by the opponents, what should I bid with something like:
Q J 9 8 7 5 4 2

K 8
J 6 5
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Posted 2011-April-08, 04:59

2, you can bid more spades later on.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2011-April-08, 05:40

A 4 bid should look something like this:

KQJTxxx
AKx
x
Ax
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Posted 2011-April-08, 06:10

View Postavoscill, on 2011-April-08, 03:06, said:

They say there is no preempt over a preempt. But maybe jumping to game should be an exception. For example, over a weak two in hearts by the opponents, what should I bid with something like:
Q J 9 8 7 5 4 2

K 8
J 6 5


Uh, no! This is a clear pass.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2011-April-08, 09:27

View Postthe hog, on 2011-April-08, 06:10, said:

Uh, no! This is a clear pass.

Someone forgot to tell Rodwell that.
Recall the famous hand ( team championship several years ago ) where he directly overcalled a weak-2D open with:
South
Q 9 x x x x
x
x x
K x x x

Meckstroth put him in 4S game with:
North
A x x
Q T x
A K Q J T
9 x

Rodwell led a Sp and let West's K win ! ! and made it .... because East could never get in to push a Cl thru South's K.... ( West held A Q J x x of Cl) .
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Posted 2011-April-08, 19:57

Rodwell is good enough and has a good enough partner that he can bid whatever he wants. The rest of us (well, maybe except Justin) might be better served by showing a bit more restraint...

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Posted 2011-April-08, 20:42

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-April-08, 09:27, said:

Someone forgot to tell Rodwell that.
Recall the famous hand ( team championship several years ago ) where he directly overcalled a weak-2D open with:
South
Q 9 x x x x
x
x x
K x x x

Meckstroth put him in 4S game with:
North
A x x
Q T x
A K Q J T
9 x

Rodwell led a Sp and let West's K win ! ! and made it .... because East could never get in to push a Cl thru South's K.... ( West held A Q J x x of Cl) .


rofl. You don't think any pair that has played for more than a week wouldn't get to 4S if Sth passed?
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Posted 2011-April-09, 04:15

View Postthe hog, on 2011-April-08, 20:42, said:

rofl. You don't think any pair that has played for more than a week wouldn't get to 4S if Sth passed?

Good point... You are right... I didn't look at it from that perspective.
But then it wouldn't have been worthy for a newspaper column.
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