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What to do here? Preempt over 2[CL]

#1 User is offline   TylerE 

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Posted 2009-November-20, 18:12

Scoring: MP

2♣ - (3♥) - ?


First time partner, no special agreements. Playing standardish 2/1 methods. If you pass to show values, partner will X.
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Posted 2009-November-20, 18:17

4H michaels. With a three suiter I would pass and cuebid if partner Xed or bid 3N.
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Posted 2009-November-21, 07:41

Jlall, on Nov 20 2009, 07:17 PM, said:

4H michaels. With a three suiter I would pass and cuebid if partner Xed or bid 3N.

I agree.

I'm posting because this made me think. Over 2♣-2♥, or any other two-level interference, would you also use systems on as if Responder's RHO opened? Meaning, jumps. seems to make sense to me.

E.g., 2♣-(2♠)-4minor as that minor and hearts. Leaping Michaels and all.
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Posted 2009-November-21, 09:48

Yeah, kenrexford vs 2-/3- bids. Next how high still on? vs 4H? 4S? 5m?
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Posted 2009-November-21, 18:47

I like the idea of playing "system on" after 2/3 level overcalls of 2♣. I'd be a little bit worried about pre-empting partner, however, despite showing these types of hand well.
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Posted 2009-November-21, 18:53

Whatever 4H means, do you think it is forcing? :)

In the absense of discussion, I would have assumed 3-suited (and forcing).

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Posted 2009-November-21, 20:57

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Posted 2009-November-22, 03:34

fred, on Nov 22 2009, 01:53 AM, said:

Whatever 4H means, do you think it is forcing? :)

In the absense of discussion, I would have assumed 3-suited (and forcing).

I have played it as psyche-exposing, forcing as far as 4NT.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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