BBO Discussion Forums: pass or not - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

pass or not pass or not

#1 User is offline   shanbari 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 135
  • Joined: 2004-December-14

Posted 2008-June-18, 09:37

Scoring: IMP

W N E S
P P 3H ?

do you pass ? and why.


SHAN
0

#2 User is offline   helene_t 

  • The Abbess
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,398
  • Joined: 2004-April-22
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Odense, Denmark
  • Interests:History, languages

Posted 2008-June-18, 09:41

I pass. I don't expect to make 3NT or 4♣, let alone 5♣.

Not sure what to do if p reopens with a double. I guess I just sign off in 4♣.
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
0

#3 User is offline   kfay 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,208
  • Joined: 2007-July-01
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Michigan
  • Interests:Science, Sports

Posted 2008-June-18, 09:46

Easy pass. Why? where are we going?
Kevin Fay
0

#4 User is offline   andy_h 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,962
  • Joined: 2007-September-14
  • Location:Australia
  • Interests:The Universe, Traveling, Squash, and Scandinavia.

Posted 2008-June-18, 09:58

sign me up for a pass too
- Andy -

We are all connected to each other biologically, to the Earth chemically, and to the rest of the universe atomically.
We're in the universe, and the universe is in us.
0

#5 User is offline   Apollo81 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,162
  • Joined: 2006-July-10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Maryland

Posted 2008-June-18, 13:01

Pass, chance of bidding and making game is less than that of going for a number
0

#6 User is offline   rogerclee 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,214
  • Joined: 2007-December-16
  • Location:Pasadena, CA

Posted 2008-June-18, 13:17

I need too much for 3NT to be right. 4♣ is laughably bad.
0

#7 User is offline   pclayton 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,151
  • Joined: 2003-June-11
  • Location:Southern California

Posted 2008-June-18, 13:19

Pass. 3N is a runner up and might work. 4♣ is a nothing bid.
"Phil" on BBO
0

#8 User is offline   gwnn 

  • Csaba the Hutt
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 13,027
  • Joined: 2006-June-16
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:bye

Posted 2008-June-18, 13:23

pass, :rolleyes:
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
      George Carlin
0

#9 User is offline   nige1 

  • 5-level belongs to me
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,128
  • Joined: 2004-August-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Glasgow Scotland
  • Interests:Poems Computers

Posted 2008-June-19, 06:11

shanbari, on Jun 18 2008, 10:37 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

W  N  E  S
P  P  3H ?

do you pass ? and why.


IMO 3N = 10, _P = 9, 4♣ = 5.
3N won't always make but it's unlikely to be doubled on this auction :) If I passed it'd be because I'm a wuss, unused to upgrading strong 14 HCP hands :)
Guthrie.tech
0

#10 User is offline   cjames 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 195
  • Joined: 2007-April-02
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norway

Posted 2008-June-19, 06:17

PASS
Squeeze me
0

#11 User is offline   Sambolino 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 173
  • Joined: 2005-April-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgrade, Serbia

Posted 2008-June-19, 06:26

i don't see a good reason why i wouldn't bid 4c at favorable
0

#12 User is offline   655321 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,502
  • Joined: 2007-December-22

Posted 2008-June-19, 06:58

I probably bid 3NT.

I think it is close between Pass and 3NT. I agree with Nige1 that we will often escape undoubled when the opponents are a passed hand and a preempt.
Sometimes when we are several down we are just swapping -140 for -150, no harm done.
If partner has ♣A we might have 6 club tricks, which (on top of a spade and one or two hearts) brings us very close to 9 tricks.
Sometimes bidding 3NT might talk them out of trying 4♥ which will sometimes make.

In short, I am not sure who can make what, so I don't mind bidding 3NT, hoping to play there undoubled.

Passing instead of 3NT is of course very reasonable, but I don't like a 4♣ overcall.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
0

#13 User is offline   shanbari 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 135
  • Joined: 2004-December-14

Posted 2008-June-19, 08:37

655321, on Jun 19 2008, 07:58 AM, said:

I probably bid 3NT.

I agree with Nige1 that we will often escape undoubled when the opponents are a passed hand and a preempt.
...

this is exact reason put me in 3nt bidder at table, and if i caught club support from partner, double swing would come.

obvsiously this idea is not shared by the majority and none of my teammates, even though 3nt succeed. :)



here's full hand



Scoring: IMP

W N E S
P P 3H 3N




with best defense, 3nt could be set (heart lead, spade switch), but often not, and i made 3nt with heart continue.

you can see 3h would be +1.


shan
SHAN
0

#14 User is offline   the hog 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-March-07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Laos
  • Interests:Wagner and Bridge

Posted 2008-June-19, 08:50

H lead s switch is 9 tricks. 6C, 1S 1D 1H.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
0

#15 User is offline   foo 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,380
  • Joined: 2003-September-24

Posted 2008-June-19, 09:19

The_Hog, on Jun 19 2008, 09:50 AM, said:

H lead s switch is 9 tricks. 6C, 1S 1D 1H.

yep. In fact both 3N and 4H appear to be cold.
0
Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users