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Fit Bids Again?

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Posted 2008-June-08, 13:26

Jlall, on Jun 7 2008, 10:39 PM, said:

I would bid 2N natural. I think this shows my hand well, not sure why it was mentioned as a weird bid. What is a 2N bid supposed to show? If partner is weak he probably has 6+ diamonds and can retreat to 3D.

To me 3C doesn't show a fit.

Sorry I'm just going to say it, isn't this a terrible auction on which to bid notrump with Qxx in their suit? The length on your left and a raise on your right? I would just bid 3♣ not promising a fit. I understand double too but it seems to likely to get us playing spades when it's very bad.
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Posted 2008-June-08, 14:02

jdonn, on Jun 8 2008, 02:26 PM, said:

Jlall, on Jun 7 2008, 10:39 PM, said:

I would bid 2N natural. I think this shows my hand well, not sure why it was mentioned as a weird bid. What is a 2N bid supposed to show? If partner is weak he probably has 6+ diamonds and can retreat to 3D.

To me 3C doesn't show a fit.

Sorry I'm just going to say it, isn't this a terrible auction on which to bid notrump with Qxx in their suit? The length on your left and a raise on your right? I would just bid 3♣ not promising a fit. I understand double too but it seems to likely to get us playing spades when it's very bad.

If you get to 3N, there is a good chance that either A) parnter has one of the A, K, or J or :) LHO has the AK. It is more likely that you won't end up in 3N but will have competed effectively without overstating either of your minors, but I feel good about my chances when partner does bid 3N given that I am a passed hand.

Nobody seems to have mentioned that 3D does not even state their values correctly, or maybe they feel like it does. I think we can miss a game, and we can also induce partner to judge correctly about whether to go to 4/5D if we raise with this hand.

I think that 3C will get you to a bad partial more often than 2N, and I think you can also miss a game by bidding that since it shows a different hand type.
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