[kgr]

I wonder if it is possible that you play 7S and can ruff a club in dummy, there is no dummy reversal (so the club ruff gains your 12th trick), but you can only make 7 on a squeeze if you don't ruff the club (the squeeze doesn't wotk if you ruff the club)?

[CSGibson]

Is this supposed to make sense without a hand diagram?

[655321]

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[kgr]

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This was the hand that was discussed. Lead was a small ♠. I didn't think over it, but I was told that you can only make 7 if you don't ruff a ♣ and that did sound very strange to me....even after too many beers (that's why I'll have to wait to verify more tomorrow)
BTW: LHO has all important cards (♥Kxxx, ♦K, ♣Q)

[655321]

kgr, on Jun 2 2008, 07:42 PM, said:

Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown

♠ Qxx ♥ AJxx ♦ Qxxx ♣ AK ♠ AKTxxx ♥ Qxx ♦ A ♣ Jxx

This was the hand that was discussed. Lead was a small ♠. I didn't think over it, but I was told that you can only make 7 if you don't ruff a ♣ and that did sound very strange to me....even after too many beers    (that's why I'll have to wait to verify more tomorrow)
BTW: LHO has all important cards (♥Kxxx, ♦K, ♣Q)

If nobody has a singleton club, and LHO has the red kings, then 7♠ is cold by ruffing a club and squeezing LHO in hearts and diamonds.

[kgr]

655321, on Jun 3 2008, 02:48 AM, said:

If nobody has a singleton club, and LHO has the red kings, then 7♠ is cold by ruffing a club and squeezing LHO in hearts and diamonds.

..ok, seemed more logic to me. will verify tomorrow
Does it also work if you do the ♥ finesse early in the play?

[kgr]

655321, on Jun 3 2008, 02:34 AM, said:

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Thanks, interesting!
I guess this is only possible in case the ruff would create entry problems.

[nige1]

Scoring: Rubber

Here is another hand where go down if you ruff a ♣ or even if opponents lead a ♣. 7♠ by South (on a non-♣ lead)

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