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2♠ 3♣ 3♠ ?
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support your p?
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Posted 2008-April-16, 23:25
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2♠ 3♣ 3♠ ?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
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"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
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Posted 2008-April-17, 00:43
Hi,
yes, 4C.
Given the auction, partner will have a single in spades,
and hence he we should have a chance of making 4C,
and if partner is max. he may even bid 5C.
With kind regards
Marlowe
yes, 4C.
Given the auction, partner will have a single in spades,
and hence he we should have a chance of making 4C,
and if partner is max. he may even bid 5C.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-April-17, 01:02
It would be nice to have a tool to ask pd to bid 3 NT with a spade stopper opposite this balanced hand.
So some people have the rule that a double here ask for a stopper.
But this is far from common sense, so I would just raise partner.
So some people have the rule that a double here ask for a stopper.
But this is far from common sense, so I would just raise partner.
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Roland
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Posted 2008-April-17, 01:05
Codo, on Apr 17 2008, 02:02 AM, said:
It would be nice to have a tool to ask pd to bid 3 NT with a spade stopper opposite this balanced hand.
So some people have the rule that a double here ask for a stopper.
But this is far from common sense, so I would just raise partner.
So some people have the rule that a double here ask for a stopper.
But this is far from common sense, so I would just raise partner.
lho claims to have 6 spades, rho claims to have 3, we have 3. p is likely to have a singleton. (though at these colors might have a dub). i am torn between doubling and seeing what happens and bidding 4♣
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Posted 2008-April-17, 07:15
Partner should not have more than one ♠.
I don't expect 4♥'s, otherwise he would have doubled to show 2-3 places to play and later support/accept my choice of trump.
In my methods a very strong partner would dbl first and bid his suit later, this would mean that his 3♣ is limited to 15- HCP and showing 0-1♠, 3-♥ and 9+ cards in the minors. So all my HCP seem valuable.
(If opps have a 9 card fit, we should have a 9 card fit too or we should have 2 8card fits. So partner might hold 6 ♣ or he has a 0355 or 1255 shape.)
The correct bid would be 4♣, but since we are vul@IMPs I might bit 5♣.
I don't expect 4♥'s, otherwise he would have doubled to show 2-3 places to play and later support/accept my choice of trump.
In my methods a very strong partner would dbl first and bid his suit later, this would mean that his 3♣ is limited to 15- HCP and showing 0-1♠, 3-♥ and 9+ cards in the minors. So all my HCP seem valuable.
(If opps have a 9 card fit, we should have a 9 card fit too or we should have 2 8card fits. So partner might hold 6 ♣ or he has a 0355 or 1255 shape.)
The correct bid would be 4♣, but since we are vul@IMPs I might bit 5♣.
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Posted 2008-April-17, 07:30
Double looks like the completely normal thing to do here.
4♣ sounds like more clubs and shape, with fewer HCP.
4♣ sounds like more clubs and shape, with fewer HCP.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-April-17, 08:08
tough problem and I would double.
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Posted 2008-April-17, 08:18
At the table i would bid 4♣.
--Ben--
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