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What do you open? void-J-K106-AKQ1097532

Poll: You deal, unfavorable, IMP (51 member(s) have cast votes)

You deal, unfavorable, IMP

  1. 1[CL] (11 votes [21.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.57%

  2. 2[CL] (4 votes [7.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.84%

  3. 3NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 5[CL] (33 votes [64.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.71%

  5. 6[CL] (2 votes [3.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.92%

  6. Other (1 votes [1.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.96%

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Posted 2007-March-29, 13:38

Once more, just in case, as it is my first poll:

You are dealer at IMP, unfavorable vulnerability, and your hand is
Scoring: IMP

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Posted 2007-March-29, 13:49

5C is really tempting at these colors... could miss a grand though... whatever 5C.
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Posted 2007-March-29, 14:16

5; I don't see an alternative with only one major card. In second seat I may choose 1.

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Posted 2007-March-29, 14:22

1C, 5C is ok, but on the other hand,
I can still bid it, and if they will always
sac. is not sure.

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Posted 2007-March-29, 14:32

5, but only at these colors with a hand this good.

At equal or green, I'll go 1 followed by something dramatic; like 5.
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Posted 2007-March-29, 15:00

I'll buy 5 at this vul. I'm probably still too good but whatever, it must be right in the long run.

If I DO open 1, and if the opponents miraculously stay silent, I think there is definitely a correct way to bid hands like this. Reverse into 2, then jump in clubs at your third turn. (Like 1 1, 2 2, 4). This makes clubs trumps but tells partner where his secondary honors will be useful, and with luck might give me an opportunity to cuebid my void next on some auctions to tell the whole story.
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Posted 2007-March-29, 15:26

yeah 5
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Posted 2007-March-29, 19:09

5 for sure... if you opened 1 only with your hand it wouldnt be surprising at all if it went 1-4(michaels) and the opps finding a cheap major sac.
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Posted 2007-March-30, 00:22

5C or a gambling 3N if i feel lucky
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Posted 2007-March-30, 03:05

Another 5C opener at red.

If LHO overcalls 5 major and partner passes, tell me you won't be tempted to bid again...
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Posted 2007-March-30, 03:17

This is a good hand for a "Preempts from A to Z" 4NT opener, showing a good 5m opening. Unfortunately I prefer to use 4NT to show the minors.

I am at unfavourable so I think I might just open 5. At any other vulnerability I would not.

3NT and 2 are terrible choices. 3NT is an understatement by quite much and 2 overstates my defense by just as much. A 2 opener promises partner that opponents can NOT make any slam.

2nd choice 1.
3rd choice 6 (because of vulnerability it is too much a gamble).
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Posted 2007-March-30, 03:31

I'm not too worried about 3NT being an understatement as I can always bid 5 if partner signs off in 4. But if I'm going to bid 5 anyway (which I probably am) I might as well open 5.

3NT or 6 are acceptable alternatives, nonvulnerable I'd probably open 6. A 1 showing just 3 is (litterally) meaningless IMHO. I might consider 2 playing Precision, though.

A strong artificial 2 is a bad joke. I'd rather open 1NT then, that's at least a good joke.
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Posted 2007-March-30, 03:45

Hi,

while I can understand 5C, let me just ask
one question to the 5C bidders:

How certain is it, that you will go plus bidding
5C, I would say at best 50:50, i.e. do you really
want to commit to a minus score, before you know
anything at all? If they sac., they may steal you 300,
but at least you are a heavy favourite to go plus.

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  Posted 2007-March-30, 03:58

:) i will open 1c this will safeguard from missing slam if pd has some values 5c opening will be like prempt less than 12 & c suit.
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Posted 2007-March-30, 05:42

This is a bothersome hand. I would open it 2 where allowed as part of my multi-2 complex that includes as an option, an Acol minor one suiter with 9.5 to 10 tricks. Technically I am one control short for this bid, but so what. Not playing multi, I would bite the bullet and make an unsatisfying 5 opening bid.... but here, nothing is really satisfying, not even multi 2.
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Posted 2007-March-30, 06:48

P_Marlowe, on Mar 30 2007, 05:45 AM, said:

Hi,

while I can understand 5C, let me just ask
one question to the 5C bidders:

How certain is it, that you will go plus bidding
5C, I would say at best 50:50, i.e. do you really
want to commit to a minus score, before you know
anything at all? If they sac., they may steal you 300,
but at least you are a heavy favourite to go plus.

With kind regards
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I am sure most people here are hoping that the opps don't bid over 5
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Posted 2007-March-30, 07:00

And most pd will know your hand quite precisly, so they will know what to do after 5 M from opps. So this will surely win in much more then 50 % of all cases. Your pd does not win many usefull information from f.e.
1 (2 ) X (4)
5
But the opps are much better placed compared to a 5 opening.
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Posted 2007-March-30, 07:57

Anyone for a "trap pass"?
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Posted 2007-March-30, 08:12

sheepman, on Mar 30 2007, 08:57 AM, said:

Anyone for a "trap pass"?

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Posted 2007-March-30, 08:12

sheepman, on Mar 30 2007, 03:57 PM, said:

Anyone for a "trap pass"?

No. If I pass and then bid 5, partner will take it as fit-showing for whatever major he has bid.
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