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18HCP 2=4=4=3

Poll: What do you bid? (41 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid?

  1. Pass (12 votes [29.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.27%

  2. DBL (21 votes [51.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 51.22%

  3. 2H (8 votes [19.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.51%

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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2007-February-20, 16:04

Scoring: MP

1♦-(2♣)-P-(P)
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Opps are not strong and 2♣ is possibly wide ranging (from 8 to 15 pts) and ♣'s don't have to be strong, but can be good.
This is MP's! (would you choose another call at IMP's?)

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Posted 2007-February-20, 16:15

I might be in a minority of 1 here, but I would have opened 1NT downgrading the QJ tight.

At MPs, I will double and pass partner's response (even 2♠, but obv not 3♣ over which I'll bid 3♥).

At IMPs, I will pass this out.
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Posted 2007-February-20, 16:25

Hi,

you forgot to add 2D.

I think 2D is at least as good as 2H,
since you wont play 3D in a 4-3 fit.

If you go in, you bet that partner has
6-8HCP, but he did not make a neg. X
=> he will have diamonds.

The min. req. for a neg. X play a certain
role, if you assume +8/9, partner may
still look at 6-8, if partner can have less, he
is broke.

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Posted 2007-February-20, 16:34

pass, trying for a plus score.
1) Would not downgrade if playing 15-17
2) would open nt if playing 16-18
3) Would open Mex 2D if that was a choice
4) P cannot have long D on this one and 6 hcp.
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Posted 2007-February-20, 16:37

P_Marlowe, on Feb 20 2007, 05:25 PM, said:

Hi,

you forgot to add 2D.

I think 2D is at least as good as 2H,
since you wont play 3D in a 4-3 fit.

If you go in, you bet that partner has
6-8HCP, but he did not make a neg. X
=> he will have diamonds.

The min. req. for a neg. X play a certain
role, if you assume +8/9, partner may
still look at 6-8, if partner can have less, he
is broke.

With kind regards
Marlowe

Count one more for 2♦. If I had KJ10xx and one less club, I'd bid 2♦. I'll accept replacing two small with the Ace comfortably.
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Posted 2007-February-20, 16:44

None vul at MP I'm going to gamble on a X. Pass just has too many ways to lose.
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Posted 2007-February-20, 17:55

I am going to pass: my black suits argue for defence, not offence, and I am going to get the right lead against 2♣.
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Posted 2007-February-20, 18:58

Playing 2S on the 4-2 fit makes me feel sick....but at mp not as sick as passing.....dbl it is and hope for a red answer or maybe a pass by p with xxx xxx xxx KJ9x..;-)

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Posted 2007-February-20, 21:07

Dbl.As somebody remarked in another thread "The best choice though it could easily be wrong."
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Posted 2007-February-20, 23:02

X. It could work out poorly.
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Posted 2007-February-21, 05:27

♣I agree with opening this 1NT as well.

I would close my eyes and bid 2♥.

And this is another hand that shows why bidding 2♣ over 1♦ whenever possible is a good idea. :D
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Posted 2007-February-21, 05:36

Double. Agree with downgrading when playing 15 - 17. If I'm playing 16 - 18 I won't care what happens on the board anyway since I will have been paid handsomely to play in the first place.
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Posted 2007-February-21, 16:57

Complete hand was something like this:
Scoring: MP

Bidding:
1D-(2C)-P-(P)
DBL-(P)-2S-(P)
2NT-all pass
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Posted 2007-February-22, 00:45

Echognome, on Feb 20 2007, 10:15 PM, said:

I might be in a minority of 1 here, but I would have opened 1NT downgrading the QJ tight.

I rarely see you downgrade hands :unsure:
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Posted 2007-February-22, 23:49

Pass.
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Posted 2007-February-23, 09:32

Dbl and pull 2♠ to 2NT, just like you did :)
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Posted 2007-February-26, 00:39

:wacko: I think there is a decent argument for 2♥, a bid that sounds like a novice's call. Partner is probably too weak and has too few clubs to make a penalty pass of a reopening double. I don't want to play a 4-2 spade fit, or even a 5-2 unless partner has good spots.

If I bid 2♥, chances are good that we can get out at either 2♥, 3♦, 2NT or 2♠ on a 5-2 fit, all undoubled. On the actual hand, 2♥ looks like a good place to play since I can ruff a ♦.

A pass looks like the winner on this hand, but I agree with most of the panel that my hand is too good to go quietly.
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Posted 2007-February-26, 07:57

Double. And pass 2♠. I'd say pard is a big favorite to hold 5 spades here.

Zero guarantee of a plus in 2♣. I'd like to be at the table to see my RHO's demeanor over 2♣ however.
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Posted 2007-February-26, 08:54

Double for me, I know many peolpe is passing, but if you ask any player above intermediate in Spain what to bid, you can be sure he won't pass, that option won't even cross their mind (exception to the 3-4 top players maybe), not even at IMPs (we are too used of MPs).

At least for me now, I will take a second though next time.
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Posted 2007-February-26, 16:01

Echognome, on Feb 21 2007, 12:15 AM, said:

I might be in a minority of 1 here, but I would have opened 1NT downgrading the QJ tight.

At MPs, I will double and pass partner's response (even 2♠, but obv not 3♣ over which I'll bid 3♥).

At IMPs, I will pass this out.

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