[inquiry]

Ok, i have to admit that if I could have picked the team to play Ohio State, I would have picked Florida... even if Southern Cal had beaten UCLA.

But this points out the problem with the system. I think the top four teams should get into a two game play-off. I have thought this for a couple of years (at least since an undefeated auburn university was left out a few years back).

The problem with a Michigan-OSU rematch is this...

Florida would surely defeat an overated Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl. Should Michigan beat OSU, who would be number one? OSU had beaten them once, and they would have won once. And Florida would still have only one loss.

As a Gator Fan, I still say that a playoff strategy is the best. The BCS needs to reconsider its plans.

Oh for the game, Gators by 10.

[helene_t]

What is this about? Icehockey? Polo? Politics?

[the saint]

College (American, not the proper kind!) Football. Unfortunately, since I have been to Huntsville a few times, I got indoctrinated into the Crimson Tide. ROLL TIDE!!

Enough of this, I'm off to post on a thread about a sporting event that matters on a global scale...

[pclayton]

Michigan.

They are better on paper than Florida, and they just got pipped by OSU (2 weeks ago?). I'm an SC fan, but they clearly weren't the #2 team in the country, even before the let down on Saturday.

Give the Wolverines a 2nd chance.

[Gerben42]

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College (American, not the proper kind!)

Hehe. I have no experience myself but from some very good friends that have the experience I tend to agree.

[Walddk]

inquiry, on Dec 4 2006, 05:15 AM, said:

Ok, i have to admit that if I could have picked the team to play Ohio State, I would have picked Florida

I understand that this is American football (which I know very little about), but out of curiosity, why must you emphasize that Ohio is a state? So is Florida.

Roland

[mike777]

Walddk, on Dec 4 2006, 02:00 PM, said:

inquiry, on Dec 4 2006, 05:15 AM, said:

Ok, i have to admit that if I could have picked the team to play Ohio State, I would have picked Florida

I understand that this is American football (which I know very little about), but out of curiosity, why must you emphasize that Ohio is a state? So is Florida.

Roland

Most states have 2 public college systems.

1) University
2) State

The university system is tougher to get into, more geared towards research and PHD's. The state school often has the better football teams but not always. They are both public as opposed to private schools.

There is an Ohio University and The Ohio state football....two different schools...Ohio University sucks at football assuming they even have a team.

Florida has the University of Florida and Florida state football....they are both good teams but the University has the better team this year.

[Rain]

Winter now. Definitely go with Florida.

=D

[luke warm]

michigan and ohio state played and both were undefeated... ohio state won... florida went 11-1 in the toughest conference in america, then won the championship game

i agree with ben on playoffs, i'd just extend it to the top 8 teams, seeded...

[mike777]

luke warm, on Dec 4 2006, 06:36 PM, said:

michigan and ohio state played and both were undefeated... ohio state won... florida went 11-1 in the toughest conference in america, then won the championship game

i agree with ben on playoffs, i'd just extend it to the top 8 teams, seeded...

The College Presidents do not want playoffs, it is too difficult for the student athlete.


OK oK it really is all about money...too much money in the Bowl system...who the heck cares if most of these guys can barely read....I understand OJ Simpson is almost illiterate...no one cares about these students.

Many pro players are addicted to pain killers..no one cares...

[keylime]

I'm going to gross everyone out.

Boise State is getting shortchanged...save them from their blue carpet, will ya?

[pigpenz]

yes boise state is undefeated if they are in an BCS conference and can go undefeated and play in a BCS bowl then they should play the only other undefeated team If by chance Ohio State should lose then there will be a bunch of teams with one loss

[Winstonm]

Playoffs will never happen because the cities and states involved will not let it happen. It's about money.

Under the present system, fans know weeks ahead of time their team's bowl destination so they fly in and make it a vacation - a stay for a few days.

In a playoff, a fan would fly in on Friday night, stay Saturday, and leave Sunday.
This would not make the cities who sponsor bowls happy.

Then, you are asking school fans to fly to a bowl for the a quarter-final game, fly again for a semi-final game, and then fly once again to the finals?

College football playoffs in Division 1 are a pipe dream...cities like Tempe, Pasadena, Miami, and Dallas aren't going to roll over and give up an extra 100 million or so in tourist dollars, and you can't have playoffs without those types of bowls.

[inquiry]

Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl feature #1 versus #4 and #2 versus #3
One week later, bowl championship game feature winners of those two bowls...

Or any two bowls or rotating group of bowls. Only the last game will fans not know until a week ahead of time if they are going. 8 teams is a non-starter, as that is three more games. Here we are talking about only one more game.. oh, and btw, more money!

[Elianna]

mike777, on Dec 4 2006, 12:01 PM, said:

Walddk, on Dec 4 2006, 02:00 PM, said:

inquiry, on Dec 4 2006, 05:15 AM, said:

Ok, i have to admit that if I could have picked the team to play Ohio State, I would have picked Florida

I understand that this is American football (which I know very little about), but out of curiosity, why must you emphasize that Ohio is a state? So is Florida.

Roland

Most states have 2 public college systems.

1) University
2) State

The university system is tougher to get into, more geared towards research and PHD's. The state school often has the better football teams but not always. They are both public as opposed to private schools.

There is an Ohio University and The Ohio state football....two different schools...Ohio University sucks at football assuming they even have a team.

Florida has the University of Florida and Florida state football....they are both good teams but the University has the better team this year.

I want to add, to be more confusing, Ohio state's full, official name is The Ohio State University. Woe unto those that drop the "The" in front of a buckeye.

Also, Ohio University definitely has a football team. They're playing in the GMAC bowl on Jan 7.

Besides having a better football team, Ohio State is also ranked as a better university (57th nationally on USNews's rankings, as opposed to Ohio's 110th)

Note that Ohio also has a university called Miami University. This is not the "Miami" you normally hear about in college football. That team is in Florida.

I'm actually not a big sports fan, but I enjoy college football, especially rivalry week. I don't really care about the bowl games or BCS to be honest.

And a side note to Phil: (from both Adam and I)

[Winstonm]

inquiry, on Dec 4 2006, 09:29 PM, said:

Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl feature #1 versus #4 and #2 versus #3
One week later, bowl championship game feature winners of those two bowls...

Or any two bowls or rotating group of bowls. Only the last game will  fans not know until a week ahead of time if they are going. 8 teams is a non-starter, as that is three more games. Here we are talking about only one more game.. oh, and btw, more money!

Sugar Bowl: New Orleans. Orange Bowl: Miami.

This will not sit well with the Fiesta Bowl: Tempe; Rose Bowl, Pasadena.

And you have fans flying to New Orleans and Miami for one game - then what?
Hang around for another week in which city? Or do we go again from here to Tempe or Pasadena?

There is only one way possible to get this to work, and that is to borrow from women's basketball and also borrow some common sense.

First, all teams would have to play the same number of games - call it 11. No conference playoffs, which will piss off the Big Twelve Conference and the SEC.
Then, you still have to take an artificial top 4 from something like the BCS - some kind of judgement as to who are the top 4 teams.

After having done this, the higher seeds in the 4-team playoff would get home field advantange with the game played on their field (this eliminates half the travel problem). The remaining two teams would meet in the championship game a week or two later in 1 of 4 bowls that would take turns as host: Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, Rose.

[Echognome]

I like Ben's idea of the top 4 teams in a short two-week playoff. It adds only one more game for the students. The championship game can still be a "bowl game" that rotates amongst the Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, and Rose. Two of the other bowl games can be the semi-final and one bowl gets the best of the rest. Fans still know in advance where the bowls will be held as they will be pre-determined. It would certainly cut down a lot on the controversy of who number one is.

[mike777]

Echognome, on Dec 5 2006, 02:50 AM, said:

I like Ben's idea of the top 4 teams in a short two-week playoff.  It adds only one more game for the students.  The championship game can still be a "bowl game" that rotates amongst the Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, and Rose.  Two of the other bowl games can be the semi-final and one bowl gets the best of the rest.  Fans still know in advance where the bowls will be held as they will be pre-determined.  It would certainly cut down a lot on the controversy of who number one is.

Right, now we can argue who is number 4!