both majors
#41
Posted 2016-July-20, 12:18
#42
Posted 2016-July-20, 12:29
neilkaz, on 2016-July-20, 12:18, said:
http://bridgewinners...-problem-13090/
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#43
Posted 2016-July-20, 13:34
billw55, on 2016-July-20, 11:57, said:
This seems backwards - any points partner has are under opener's, so (while I agree it's a highly cherry-picked hand) it looks more likely to be three off to me - and chances of being doubled are quite high when we bid to the four-level with this few points and things aren't friendly.
#44
Posted 2016-July-20, 13:39
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#45
Posted 2016-July-20, 13:44
Jinksy, on 2016-July-20, 13:34, said:
OK, I guess there is an extra heart loser there I wasn't considering.
Then again, when opener is strong he won't always double. He may opt to bid on, or even pass - his partner has shown weakness after all.
So several things have to happen for this to blow up: partner has to have the wrong hand, they have to double us, and sit for it, and beat it more than one. It feels like we will make game more often than this parlay happens .. maybe I am too optimistic. The BW poll does carry a lot of weight.
-gwnn
#47
Posted 2016-July-20, 15:56
billw55, on 2016-July-20, 13:44, said:
That's a worst-case scenario, but there are plenty of other bad ones - the obvious one being 3♠ is making 9 tricks (~6 IMPs away). But we could also drift an extra trick off (~3 IMPs away), get doubled in 4M and go one off (~8 IMPs away), push partner into overbidding (he might not play us for much, but he's unlikely to play us for a hand this weak, since even if we can have it by specific agreement we're comparatively unlikely to) when we would have been in game anyway (~13 IMPs away), and various less likely scenarios (eg pushing them into 5♦=).
Obviously I can't know what this adds up to in expectation, but some bad result is hardly unlikely.
#48
Posted 2016-July-20, 18:10
Jinksy, on 2016-July-20, 11:05, said:
nothing
if partner has a doubleton diamond, he must have a significantly stronger (and more major orientated) hand than this.
if he's only got a singleton diamond, the opps will be bidding on anyway.
#49
Posted 2016-July-21, 01:21
jogs, on 2016-July-20, 14:09, said:
Good cop-out. Well played.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#50
Posted 2016-July-21, 01:43
#51
Posted 2016-July-21, 11:31
https://www.youtube....hungPlaysBridge
#52
Posted 2016-July-21, 12:31
kuhchung, on 2016-July-21, 11:31, said:
You play there.
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#53
Posted 2016-July-22, 16:16
To illustrate the edge in the 4♦ bid when interpreted as intended, give partner a hand within expectation range, say, ♠QJx ♥AQJx ♦Kx ♣AQxx, and opener ♠Ax ♥Kxx ♦A10xxx ♣Kxx. Now 3♠ is going down on the singleton heart lead and 4♥ makes in neat fashion.