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I am always impressed with how much foreigners seem to know about american politics (aka, way way more than me!). I know part of this is LOLamericans and we are accustomed to a lower level of knowing about other countries and all that... but I was wondering how much of it is that I am getting a skewed sample because I read internet forums (where people are more likely to be the types to read up and follow american politics, and more likely to be smart), and how much of it is that it is actually common for an average person from a random western european country to know about US politics.
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Posted 2011-November-23, 18:42
It's much easier for the average European to follow US politics than reversed for the US guys, because there are only two clear structured political camps and two centres of political power, White House & Congress.A glass house...compared the the "european jungle" Also, I suppose there are x times more US politic reports in main european TV news than reversed. And not at least the global impacts of the US politic on Europe are much bigger.
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JLOGIC, on 2011-November-23, 17:40, said:
I am always impressed with how much foreigners seem to know about american politics (aka, way way more than me!). I know part of this is LOLamericans and we are accustomed to a lower level of knowing about other countries and all that... but I was wondering how much of it is that I am getting a skewed sample because I read internet forums (where people are more likely to be the types to read up and follow american politics, and more likely to be smart), and how much of it is that it is actually common for an average person from a random western european country to know about US politics.
You are getting a very skewed sample. My friends, to a man, are generally v smart people, but in a poll on a group conversation, it turned out about 30% of them didnt know the difference between deficit and debt.
Since that has been dominating political discourse for about two years, it was really pretty depressing. I can only imagine that the general population is much worse.
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JLOGIC, on 2011-November-20, 09:44, said:
In other news, the time may have come to buy Romney. I have thought the whole time that if ANY viable candidate emerged, they would beat Romney, cuz ZOMG HES A MORMON! That said, if the most viable alternative is Newt... I can't really see Romney losing at this point.
Romney's dropped below 50% now. Gingrich is soaring (is America ready for a First Homewrecker? I'm still clinging to the hope that somehow Paul or Huntsman will break through.)
In other news, the time may have come to ask Justin for political predictions so you can bet on the opposite happening.
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I officially bought Romney, doesn't necessarily mean I am wrong if I wanted to buy Romney earlier as I am not trying to predict how the market will change, just who will win (I am a value investor! lol).
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Posted 2011-December-01, 15:53
Gingrich would also be only the 2nd divorced president. As I type this Romney 47.4 Gingrich 37.6. I guess it's cool that we're into December and it's still a race, I just wish I liked one of the two candidates.
If only Ron Paul were 20 years younger and had a better voice.
While I personally can't stand Bachmann I was impressed by her grasp of the issues until her recent 'pull the embassy from Iran' flub.
If only Ron Paul were 20 years younger and had a better voice.
While I personally can't stand Bachmann I was impressed by her grasp of the issues until her recent 'pull the embassy from Iran' flub.
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Posted 2011-December-03, 19:33
Ladies and Gentleman, Herman Cain has left the clown car...
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hrothgar, on 2011-December-03, 19:33, said:
Ladies and Gentleman, Herman Cain has left the clown car...
What's more sad is that Huntsman now seems to be excluded from Republican debates. I liked having him there to (occasionally) say something sensible. He's also the one Republican contender I'd consider voting for in the general election (I'm pretty disappointed with Obama)... but of course there was never a chance they'd nominate him.
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Posted 2011-December-04, 13:17
hrothgar, on 2011-December-03, 19:33, said:
Ladies and Gentleman, Herman Cain has left the clown car...
I heard Cain was going to go into business with Rick Perry after the election to start a chain of Texas Dominionist pizza parlors where if the pizza didn't show up within 30 minutes, the customer gets blamed for his lack of delivery faith and has to pay an added corporate inconvenience surcharge.
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Posted 2011-December-09, 13:23
Looks like the Republican race is entering another phase; Romney is starting to use Gingrich-speak against Newt himself: Newts nastiness comes back to haunt him.
But wait! Newt has an unlimited supply of adjectives to unleash against his brain-dead, pustule-sucking opponents. Should be a fun month.
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Nearly two decades ago, Gingrichs political action committee, with the help of GOP wordsmith Frank Luntz, issued a now-famous memo telling Republican candidates which words they should use to describe their opponents. Among them: anti, betray, bizarre, corrupt, destructive, disgrace, shame, lie, pathetic, radical, self-serving, selfish, shallow, shame, sick, traitors.
These are powerful words that can create a clear and easily understood contrast, this Gingrich-endorsed memo explained. Remember that creating a difference helps you. Apply these to the opponent, their record, proposals and their party.
With that memo, and with the slashing style of politics that brought Republicans to power in the House for the first time in generations, Gingrich did more than anybody else to set the tone in Washington. Now, in a form of rough justice, the savagery has come full circle and is being used against its sponsor.
These are powerful words that can create a clear and easily understood contrast, this Gingrich-endorsed memo explained. Remember that creating a difference helps you. Apply these to the opponent, their record, proposals and their party.
With that memo, and with the slashing style of politics that brought Republicans to power in the House for the first time in generations, Gingrich did more than anybody else to set the tone in Washington. Now, in a form of rough justice, the savagery has come full circle and is being used against its sponsor.
But wait! Newt has an unlimited supply of adjectives to unleash against his brain-dead, pustule-sucking opponents. Should be a fun month.
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Posted 2011-December-09, 13:53
Do I really have this right? The December 27th debate will be hosted by Donald Trump?
http://www.newsmax.c...CFchM4Aod4EHXRw
Will ha be saying "You're fired!"? Would whoever is planning this like to stop embarrassing the country?
http://www.newsmax.c...CFchM4Aod4EHXRw
Will ha be saying "You're fired!"? Would whoever is planning this like to stop embarrassing the country?
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kenberg, on 2011-December-09, 13:53, said:
Do I really have this right? The December 27th debate will be hosted by Donald Trump?
http://www.newsmax.c...CFchM4Aod4EHXRw
Will ha be saying "You're fired!"? Would whoever is planning this like to stop embarrassing the country?
http://www.newsmax.c...CFchM4Aod4EHXRw
Will ha be saying "You're fired!"? Would whoever is planning this like to stop embarrassing the country?
Some of the republican candidates have declined to attend that circus. So far as I know, only Gingrich and Santorum have agreed to appear so far. I understand that Trump will either endorse a candidate after that debate or, if he doesn't like what they say, run himself as an independent.
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PassedOut, on 2011-December-09, 13:59, said:
Some of the republican candidates have declined to attend that circus.
santorum probably figures he has nothing to lose... the others don't want to debate newt unless there are enough of them to dilute his time... neither obama nor his teleprompter want to either, but i doubt he has to worry about it
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Posted 2011-December-09, 15:09
I think it has more to do with the moderator (who is likely to try and steal the show) than with Newt. I'd expect that Romney would be happy to face off against Newt one-on-one under normal circumstances. I also don't think Obama is scared of Newt -- the same over-the-top attacks that make Newt popular with the Republican base (along with a history of shutting down the government and a wide range of ethical issues) will kill Newt's chances in the general election.
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awm, on 2011-December-09, 15:09, said:
I'd expect that Romney would be happy to face off against Newt one-on-one under normal circumstances.
i could be wrong, but i think he's already declined that opportunity
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I also don't think Obama is scared of Newt
i don't know if he is or not, but i think a debate would not go well for obama
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Posted 2011-December-09, 16:32
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Posted 2011-December-10, 08:42
New Perry ad implodes.
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In the commercial, titled "Strong," Perry says, "You know there's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas."
The spot has even divided top Perry staffers. Terry Fabrizio, a lead pollster for the Perry campaign branded it "nuts" in an email according to Sam Stein of the Huffington Post.
The spot has even divided top Perry staffers. Terry Fabrizio, a lead pollster for the Perry campaign branded it "nuts" in an email according to Sam Stein of the Huffington Post.
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Winstonm, on 2011-December-10, 08:42, said:
New Perry ad implodes.
I don't follow US politics THAT accurately but I think this might have been one of the most discriminatory things a presidential candidate has said for a while. Especially painful in an advertisement, which is not live. This is a statement that might come from a Christian version of the Iranian president.
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Gerben42, on 2011-December-10, 08:58, said:
I don't follow US politics THAT accurately but I think this might have been one of the most discriminatory things a presidential candidate has said for a while. Especially painful in an advertisement, which is not live. This is a statement that might come from a Christian version of the Iranian president.
It appears that Perry tried to mitigate the homophobia aspect by dressing like a character in 'Brokeback Mountain' but that might have been too subtle for a political ad.
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Gerben42, on 2011-December-10, 08:58, said:
I don't follow US politics THAT accurately but I think this might have been one of the most discriminatory things a presidential candidate has said for a while. Especially painful in an advertisement, which is not live. This is a statement that might come from a Christian version of the Iranian president.
You should be glad you aren't following US politics that closely. I think Herman Cain has been a lot worse (try googling Herman Cain bigot).
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